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    I finally watched Jerez last night. I love how the commentators were talking the track up, but it's usually a bit of a ptocession. Good to have the real Marc Marquez back, even if it was only for a few laps.

    This is from David Emmett's subscriber notes after the race. Worth a read.

    Finally, to an unlikely hero of the day. After examining the pace set by riders in FP3 and FP4, it was all too easy to write Marc Marquez off. Standing trackside for FP3, Marc Marquez did not look like Marc Marquez, but like someone had stolen his leathers to take the Honda RC213V out for a spin.

    That lack of pace was deliberate, Marquez explained. Since his return from injury, he has been forced to save himself during practice, doing the bare minimum to ensure he got through to Q2, and to get an idea of the setup which might work. That left him with maximum energy for Sunday, and a chance to be competitive.

    And he looked it. Marquez was pushing, bullying, catching moments, and saving a massive slide at Turn 13. That is a left hander, of course, Marquez stronger side. On the right side, he joked, that would not be possible. "It seems like he's got that confidence about it. I mean he was able to save a couple of decent moments from what I saw, just by the little time I spent behind him," Jack Miller said.

    "It’s true that last year I had some experience and this year I tried to approach the weekends saving energy for Sunday," Marquez told us. "On Friday I tried not to use a lot of my energy for the rhythm."

    It wasn't an easy strategy to follow, however. "It's difficult to work like this, but it's how I feel better on Sunday. On Saturday I push for single laps, and then in FP4 I tried to find out my rhythm, and then in the race I give everything," Marquez said..

    Not yet

    He was not ready to starting thinking about he MotoGP title, the Repsol Honda rider warned. "At the moment we are not ready to fight for the championship," he told us. "But it's true that we are getting closer and closer. Tomorrow we have an important test, we will continue to work on… I cannot say in that direction because still we don’t know the direction. We need to understand many things with this new bike."

    He was struggling to adapt the bike to his riding style, so now he was attempting to approach it from the other end. "Nnow I'm trying to work on my riding style and try to ride in the best way possible with another riding style," Marquez told us. "But it's true still I’m struggling, but I can survive and I can get the good results for - okay in the past, you would say it’s not a good result, but now in the actual moment is a good position."

    What is remarkable about Marquez is his ability to adjust his targets and live with what is realistic, rather than what he expects, which is to win every race he competes in. "It's true that I did a good race," Marquez told us. "I mean, one of my targets was fifth position today and I achieved fourth. I mean the targets need to be some targets that you can achieve because if not the frustration is too high every race, so it's not."

    "Te mentality is not the position I would like to be, but what I understand is that you need to understand where is your level in actual moment and find a target that you can achieve," Marquez told us. Setting realistic goals and achieving them – or even overachieving them – is far more sensible, and places far more stress on Marquez in the races. And at this point in his career, where he is still struggling with his shoulder and arm, and a bike that doesn't want to turn with the impeccable feeling he had on the front, under-promising and overachieving is the best way for him to go.

    Is Marc Marquez back? Not yet, but he is on his way. He hasn't forgotten how to ride, but he doesn't have the strength and fitness to do it week in and week out. But every week he gets strong, and a little closer to the front. And every week, he gets a little bit closer to the day when he can ride as he places, having developed the engine and chassis to his desire. He is 9th in the championship, just 45 points behind the leader, Fabio Quartararo. That is a big gap, but spread over 15 races, that is just 3 points a race he needs to recover from Quartararo. Not, by any means, impossible.


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    That's good stuff... but yeah I dont think he'll be in the top 5 this year, but next year.. different story
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    I missed the Maverick discussion a few weeks back, but finally have a little time as I'm on the picton ferry, though the speed of the wifi makes a snail look like the Rossi of old lol
    Also, let me prefix my comments with had I ever come up against MV for 1 lap of manfield, he would have had a cold coffee waiting for me at the finish line, motogp riders are so far above average racers it is immeasurable. Having said that, I'm putting my comments in context of the ever deepening motogp rider skill sets out there.

    For what it is worth, I do not think that Aprilia hired MV to win the championship, thinking he had been mistreated and that they could manage him better. Rather they hired him because of his ability to win a race or two, so they could finally get on the winners board. As it turns out AE beat him to it. What I am noticing is MV is regurgitating all the same excuses he uttered at Yamaha. "I don't understand it, we make no changes from qualifying and the bike is completely different in the race" etc. Now he is talking up his chances of doing better on another bike. He will never be able to accept the true problem lies with him, and thus take the steps to correct them - just my opinion if course.

    Now Suzuki is folding, it would be prudent that he get his head down and just go for it, his history will suggest he will just keep blaming everyone and everything else. His new problem is, other teams will see the same shit different bike reality, and sensibly go with Mir or Rins.

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    i think MVs real problem is cannot get the confidence (and thats all it is at the top) in the grip.My understanding is the grip in the race is much different from the practises because of the moto 2 rce..They all talk at times of this but all of the others seem to hve the confidence that the grip is there it just dosnt feel like it.?? He NEEDS to know it is there .By the time he has figured it out its too late.I think this has the effect that he hasnt worn his tyres ike the others so at the end of the race he has the confidence and the grip.

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    So, what you are saying, is he needs to get a grip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    So, what you are saying, is he needs to get a grip?

    Boom :P

    Yeah they all seem to say a similar thing, but MV seems most affected.
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    (crafar Tech Talk on on board cameras)

    If you havent seen this, its quite interesting, about how many cameras, and how they're configured.
    Having worked in TV, even with 10-20 cameras direction is a mission, with this many you'd wanna have 50 eyeballs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWST? View Post
    i think MVs real problem is cannot get the confidence (and thats all it is at the top) in the grip.My understanding is the grip in the race is much different from the practises because of the moto 2 rce..They all talk at times of this but all of the others seem to hve the confidence that the grip is there it just dosnt feel like it.?? He NEEDS to know it is there .By the time he has figured it out its too late.I think this has the effect that he hasnt worn his tyres ike the others so at the end of the race he has the confidence and the grip.
    Nope. He doesn't know why he is fast. He just is and he's never learned to analyse how he does what he does. At MotoGP level he's a waste of time. There have been a bunch of riders over the years who are incredible talents but struggle to put together a race let alone a championship and he's one of them. He 's been in touch with Aleix in terms of pace once since he started at Aprilia. Most KB commentators wrote Aleix off years ago, so given his form last year and this, I'm suprised more people haven't got the hint that MV doesn't know what to do to fix his issues and isn't the rider they think he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Nope. He doesn't know why he is fast. He just is and he's never learned to analyse how he does what he does. At MotoGP level he's a waste of time. There have been a bunch of riders over the years who are incredible talents but struggle to put together a race let alone a championship and he's one of them. He 's been in touch with Aleix in terms of pace once since he started at Aprilia. Most KB commentators wrote Aleix off years ago, so given his form last year and this, I'm suprised more people haven't got the hint that MV doesn't know what to do to fix his issues and isn't the rider they think he is.
    I saw an article today where MV says he is in for the long haul, and Aprilia seem to think he is willing to learn and to change..

    Who knows, though?
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    Long haul: Fuck I better save some of this money while I'm still able to cling onto a ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Long haul: Fuck I better save some of this money while I'm still able to cling onto a ride.
    Pretty much..

    Also saw something saying Pol was gone from Honda and Rins was ins, either that or Mir was there. But not true, today they said negotiations had only just started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Long haul: Fuck I better save some of this money while I'm still able to cling onto a ride.
    Mir, Rins and Pol are on the market. Aprilia would do well to give someone at Piaggio a BJ to get one of them onboard. In other news, how long before KTM ditch their 1987 Honda CBR600 frame for something made of aluminium?
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    In other news, how long before KTM ditch their 1987 Honda CBR600 frame for something made of aluminium?
    Haha Jim, and looking at it seriously the 1987 CBR600 with steel frame won many races in its class, even here in New Zealand with Dave Martin and the like on-board, more than can be said for the number of race wins the KTM MotoGP bike has had in its career.
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    Great to see the World Champ fighting for wins on the yamaha ! #20

    Dovi tho, time to retire,it was never gunna work ?????

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    Last night Mat Oxley said he would have news today. His news is that some teams have been cheating by using illegally low tyre pressures. I’ll post a link later when I’m up.
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