Moto GP 2022

[pritch]

TT rather than GP but sad for all concerned including those responsible.


https://www.rte.ie/sport/motorsport/...n-fatal-crash/

[ducatilover]

TT rather than GP but sad for all concerned including those responsible.


https://www.rte.ie/sport/motorsport/...n-fatal-crash/

One has to ask, how the heck does that happen?

[roogazza]

TT rather than GP but sad for all concerned including those responsible.


https://www.rte.ie/sport/motorsport/...n-fatal-crash/

It my younger days I did consider having a crack at that style of racing. A good mate (Hiscock )was goin and suggested ,yeah mate come over and be my mechanic as well !!!
So easy to make a mistake on a place like that,glad I didn't.... Dave took a while to learn it in sections and did quite well. But nah glad I didn't .
I hada career in the Police as well so opted for a safe life, lol.

[pritch]

One has to ask, how the heck does that happen?

They were from Europe, newcomers to the TT, so they were not already well known. Neither would have been in a position to chat after the accident.

It's not quite as simple as it is with a solo where there are big numbers on the bike that identify the rider. A sidecar number gives two options.

They arent soldiers, they don't wear dog tags. Although that may be up for revue?

[pritch]

It my younger days I did consider having a crack at that style of racing. A good mate (Hiscock )was goin and suggested ,yeah mate come over and be my mechanic as well !!!
So easy to make a mistake on a place like that,glad I didn't.... Dave took a while to learn it in sections and did quite well. But nah glad I didn't .
I hada career in the Police as well so opted for a safe life, lol.

Not sure if he's still current, but one of the Taranaki cops raced in the IoM.

[Autech]

It my younger days I did consider having a crack at that style of racing. A good mate (Hiscock )was goin and suggested ,yeah mate come over and be my mechanic as well !!!
So easy to make a mistake on a place like that,glad I didn't.... Dave took a while to learn it in sections and did quite well. But nah glad I didn't .
I hada career in the Police as well so opted for a safe life, lol.

I won't even do the NZ street circuits, let alone the IOM TT lol.
I know my limits, not wanting to find them the hardest way

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[roogazza]

I won't even do the NZ street circuits, let alone the IOM TT lol.
I know my limits, not wanting to find them the hardest way
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lol strangely I loved the Street circuits best ! I felt at home on them , curbs and gutters etc.
But the speeds aren't like the TT .... so maybe thats it?
First race was Wanganui in the rain 70 or 71
Might have been all that riding on the Rimutakas from a young age lol.
I was keen to win Points Races to gauge my level (and probably to piss others off that were chasing Championships.!!!!! )
It wasn't in me to be happy with a place here or there...and gathering points !

[Reckless]

Me to to old for street circuits no damn run off. We have only one left in the north anyway - Boxing day.

Miller news
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/...wVvRIINAzqVDOY

He might have signed at the right time after two seasons going wayward for Ktm or it might be a dog that needs a new chassis.
KTM's main history is not in road bikes lets see how it goes - I'd quite like him to shove it up Ducati

[Autech]

lol strangely I loved the Street circuits best ! I felt at home on them , curbs and gutters etc, but the speeds aren't like the TT maybe thats it?
First race was Wanganui in the rain 70 or 71
Might have been all that riding on the Rimutakas from a young age lol.
I was keen to win Points Races to gauge my level (and probably to piss others off that were chasing Championships.!!!!! )
It wasn't in me to be happy with a place here or there...

Yeah I made a deal with the bestest half to never run on one, she reminds me everytime I get the slightest hankering.

Can't honestly say Miller is a better rider than Olivera, but as stated he'll ride the phuckin wheels of it where it seems Olivera needs everything to click, which its not at the mo.
He'll be the first guy to win with 3 manufacturers at least and awesome they signed him for 2 years, he's been on 1 year contracts far too long which must effect his performance.

I honestly think that without all the aero nonsence KTM would be in the mix, they just seem to be struggling to make it work as well as the other homies.

Ducati letting him go is a mistake though, none of their riders seem capable of putting in solid results week in week out bar Zarco, who always flops in form as the season goes on. I'm honestly surprised his seat hasn't been mentioned with the likes of Rins and Mir on the market. Its a shame as its looks like Darren Binders not going to get another season when he's been showing awesome form of late, finishing as the fastest Yamaha behind Fabio.

My predictions at the mo:

Mir to Honda
Rins to one of the new Aprilia seats
Ogura to take Takas seat at LCR
Alex Marquex to keep his seat because of his last name
Olivera to take the Beasts seat
The Beast to Factory Ducati
Then I dunno from there



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[James Deuce]

Me to to old for street circuits no damn run off. We have only one left in the north anyway - Boxing day.

Miller news
https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/...wVvRIINAzqVDOY

He might have signed at the right time after two seasons going wayward for Ktm or it might be a dog that needs a new chassis.
KTM's main history is not in road bikes lets see how it goes - I'd quite like him to shove it up Ducati

That's his career done. KTM are suffering from the same ideological rigidity that Ducati entered MotoGP with. There is no way to manufacture two steel trellis-based chassis exactly the same. Ducati had changed their design and manufacturing philosophies by this stage of their entry into MotoGP.

[James Deuce]

Yeah I made a deal with the bestest half to never run on one, she reminds me everytime I get the slightest hankering.

Can't honestly say Miller is a better rider than Olivera, but as stated he'll ride the phuckin wheels of it where it seems Olivera needs everything to click, which its not at the mo.
He'll be the first guy to win with 3 manufacturers at least and awesome they signed him for 2 years, he's been on 1 year contracts far too long which must effect his performance.

I honestly think that without all the aero nonsence KTM would be in the mix, they just seem to be struggling to make it work as well as the other homies.

Ducati letting him go is a mistake though, none of their riders seem capable of putting in solid results week in week out bar Zarco, who always flops in form as the season goes on. I'm honestly surprised his seat hasn't been mentioned with the likes of Rins and Mir on the market. Its a shame as its looks like Darren Binders not going to get another season when he's been showing awesome form of late, finishing as the fastest Yamaha behind Fabio.

My predictions at the mo:

Mir to Honda
Rins to one of the new Aprilia seats
Ogura to take Takas seat at LCR
Alex Marquex to keep his seat because of his last name
Olivera to take the Beasts seat
The Beast to Factory Ducati
Then I dunno from there



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My pick is Bastianini will end up on Pol Espargaro's Honda.
A. Marquez will get the heave ho for Rins or Mir.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah I made a deal with the bestest half to never run on one, she reminds me everytime I get the slightest hankering.

Can't honestly say Miller is a better rider than Olivera, but as stated he'll ride the phuckin wheels of it where it seems Olivera needs everything to click, which its not at the mo.
He'll be the first guy to win with 3 manufacturers at least and awesome they signed him for 2 years, he's been on 1 year contracts far too long which must effect his performance.

I honestly think that without all the aero nonsence KTM would be in the mix, they just seem to be struggling to make it work as well as the other homies.

Ducati letting him go is a mistake though, none of their riders seem capable of putting in solid results week in week out bar Zarco, who always flops in form as the season goes on. I'm honestly surprised his seat hasn't been mentioned with the likes of Rins and Mir on the market. Its a shame as its looks like Darren Binders not going to get another season when he's been showing awesome form of late, finishing as the fastest Yamaha behind Fabio.

My predictions at the mo:

Mir to Honda
Rins to one of the new Aprilia seats
Ogura to take Takas seat at LCR
Alex Marquex to keep his seat because of his last name
Olivera to take the Beasts seat
The Beast to Factory Ducati
Then I dunno from there



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That's a considered list . I'm glad I didn't make a predictions as I'd not have made that list, but then would be back-pedalling to mirror yours.

[roogazza]

How do we pick a Champ out of this years crop, I wouldn't dare ! I think you have to get to some GP's and talk to teams and get all the inside goss ? Otherwise you may as will ask Stuff.com !!!!! or the Herald.

All the new young guys seem good but I miss the MM, Rossi , Lorenzo etc etc in other words the Aliens.

You have to be good to get to GP level, but then there's the Elite,the top line dudes .

My picks would be Bagnia and my Fav Fabio Q, the rest like AE will pull off the odd win or good ride but I wouldn't be guessing on KTM or Aprillia...or any of their riders....

I await to be proved wrong.... Motogp is in a flat phase I think ?

I wish the Yamahas would give #20 a new engine or a V4 or Bagnia to settle and be consistant... Am I that wrong ????

[Autech]

That's a considered list . I'm glad I didn't make a predictions as I'd not have made that list, but then would be back-pedalling to mirror yours.

I'm almost certainly phuckin wrong, but its makes the best sense to me.

Where I really have no idea is whats going to happen to Raul and Remy. For them to be kicked out of Motogp after such a dominant moto2 season after only 1 year would be crazy.

Especially when you have dead weight in the forms of Alex Marquez, (hem hem) Vinales, Nakagami, Dovi (especially) etc holding down seats that could go to someone more competitive. Likewise Darren Binder, he's earned another season at least.

The one I'm rooting for the most is Franco, he's fast as fuck but has not been himself since that big injury last year, so I think they should keep him where he is as they kept Fabio when Franco smoked him for that season. The level is so high its easy to slip to the side a bit I think.

I reckon Olivera has been slower since he got married to his step sister lol. Too much rooting

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[Autech]

How do we pick a Champ out of this years crop, I wouldn't dare ! I think you have to get to some GP's and talk to teams and get all the inside goss ? Otherwise you may as will ask Stuff.com !!!!! or the Herald.

All the new young guys seem good but I miss the MM, Rossi , Lorenzo etc etc in other words the Aliens.

You have to be good to get to GP level, but then there's the Elite,the top line dudes .

My picks would be Bagnia and my Fav Fabio Q, the rest like AE will pull off the odd win or good ride but I wouldn't be guessing on KTM or Aprillia...or any of their riders....

I await to be proved wrong.... Motogp is in a flat phase I think ?

I wish the Yamahas would give #20 a new engine or a V4 or Bagnia to settle and be consistant... Am I that wrong ????

The Aliens as they were have gone and raised another whole generation full of aliens I think. 3/4 of the motogp grid would be capable of going toe to toe with the 4 aliens of that era now.
There are some riders still ahead of the rest, like Fabio, Marc Marquez, Brad Binder on raw talent and riding to the limit etc, but they're mearly a toe above of the rest of the field rather than head a shoulders like Rossi, Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Stoner were.

Joan Mir is the closest thing we've had to someone who was shaping up to be an alien reaching Motogp recently (going off his lower class trajectory) but its not turned into much on the big bikes.

But, that toes difference that Fabio has this year is enough to give him alien status imo. He's doing things on the bike that no one else can, he'll be champion this year as the only competition he has either falls off, gets taken out or have their teams pull the plug ruining the season. Its a shame as I thought Mir and Rins were well up for a shot this year.

I'll be cheering Aleix the whole way though, always viewed him as a rider not given the bike to show his stuff, he's showing it now for sure. Suzuki were fucking morons to dump him when they did.

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