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    Quote Originally Posted by pzkpfw View Post
    It needs the same thing that would cure much terrorism.

    Jobs, and some "comfort" resulting from them.

    The World needs to find a way for people to do something, to have something. With less time to waste, and having stuff they don't want to waste: they get less interested in the various kinds of fucking around they get up to.

    A lot of the futurists saw a time when technology (robots, computers, ...) would do much of the work and we'd all spend more time at the tennis club. I say bollocks to that. It'd just multiply the number of people with time for being arses.

    Not saying we need work camps like in the great depression, but we need something.
    something something BRAVE NEW WORLD
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    A different perspective on consequences....

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/30057...ndate-protests
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    Thoroughly cringeworthy interview with a “ disinformation expert”.....

    Watch the lovely interviewers reaction as he misappropriates (I hate that term) the chch quake in a real badly thought out metaphor and she hauls him up on it....
    As usual very little of substance.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Thoroughly cringeworthy interview with a “ disinformation expert”.....

    Watch the lovely interviewers reaction as he misappropriates (I hate that term) the chch quake in a real badly thought out metaphor and she hauls him up on it....
    As usual very little of substance.....

    Thats a big call for you to make considering
    1 you often spread disinformation and do so on purpose as you are a troll and sometimes are you are too silly to figure out you are not an expert as you read something on the web
    2 often go on about woke people making too big a deal of non-PC comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Thoroughly cringeworthy interview with a “ disinformation expert”.....

    Watch the lovely interviewers reaction as he misappropriates (I hate that term) the chch quake in a real badly thought out metaphor and she hauls him up on it....
    As usual very little of substance.....
    Unsurprisingly I saw it rather differently to you. His earthquake analogy was fine. She mentioned upsetting ralatives of the dead and injured which was overly sensitive. Is the earthquake never to be mentioned again?

    The problem was that the interviewers particularly the woman, had no idea of the subject matter. She asked their 'expert' about foreign influence, apparently under the impression that if the sites were NZ based that ruled out foreign influence. Almost as if she believed the dozen or so problem accounts never read anything from overseas.
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    Quite surprised that we own 17 LRADs in NZ.
    They have been around for about 20 years. There are also microwave versions which are known to cause burning sensation to skinny tissue....

    I have no problem with them being used in riot situations.

    What’s really interesting me is who was in office when they were ordered/purchased. Who foresaw such serious public unrest coming thatvthey thought lil ol NZ needed these tools when we struggle with the idea of arming cops against gangsters....

    And boy oh boy won’t Gomez be getting a right reaming from Jacinda for essentially calling current govt/police actions Tyranny!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post

    And boy oh boy won’t Gomez be getting a right reaming from Jacinda for essentially calling current govt/police actions Tyranny!!!
    Why? Golriz Ghahraman is not a Labour party member - NZ Greens. The Greens are not the Government and Members of other parties are free to express their own opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Why? Golriz Ghahraman is not a Labour party member - NZ Greens. The Greens are not the Government and Members of other parties are free to express their own opinions.
    Point of Order:

    What is the difference between the Current Greens and Current Labour?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Point of Order:


    What is the difference between the Current Greens and Current Labour?
    That Labour is the Government (by virtue of winning an absolute majority in the 2020 election) and the Greens are not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    That Labour is the Government (by virtue of winning an absolute majority in the 2020 election) and the Greens are not?
    Well... Hang up a sec there, last I checked:

    "Greens agreed to cooperate with the Labour majority government, and Shaw was re-appointed as the Minister for Climate Change"

    Sure, Labour have an absolute majority, but the Greens are still in the Government, by virtue of having an appointed Minister.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Well... Hang up a sec there, last I checked:

    "Greens agreed to cooperate with the Labour majority government, and Shaw was re-appointed as the Minister for Climate Change"

    Sure, Labour have an absolute majority, but the Greens are still in the Government, by virtue of having an appointed Minister.
    The Green-Labour cooperation agreement includes:

    Nature of agreement
    3. The Green Party agrees to support the Labour Government by not opposing votes on matters of
    confidence and supply for the full term of this Parliament. In addition, the Green Party will support
    the Labour Government on procedural motions in the House and at Select Committees on the
    terms set out in this agreement. This will provide New Zealanders with the certainty of a strong,
    stable Labour Government with support from the Green Party over the next three years.
    4. The Green Party will determine its own position in relation to any policy or legislative matter not
    covered by the Ministerial portfolios and areas of cooperation set out in this agreement. Differences
    of position within such portfolios and areas of cooperation will be managed in accordance with this
    agreement.

    5. The Labour Government in turn commits to working constructively with the Green Party to advance
    the policy goals set out in this agreement, alongside Labour’s policy programme.
    Ministerial positions
    6. The Labour Government’s priorities for this term centre on a COVID-19 recovery plan. This includes
    the implementation of Labour’s manifesto promises and five point economic plan, with a focus on
    investing in our people and preparing for the future.
    7. The Green Party’s aspirations include enabling a Just Transition to a zero-carbon economy;
    supporting equity, compassion and inclusive communities; ensuring ecosystems, indigenous
    species and their habitats thrive; and cultivating a flourishing democracy founded on Te Tiriti o
    Waitangi.
    8. This agreement supports the advance of the Government’s priorities by allocating portfolios and
    establishing areas of cooperation that are consistent with the direction and goals of the Labour
    Government, as well as contributing to addressing the Green Party’s aspirations.
    9. The Green Party will hold the following portfolios outside of Cabinet:
    A. Marama Davidson will be appointed to the position of Minister for the Prevention of
    Family and Sexual Violence and Associate Minister of Housing (Homelessness).
    B. Hon James Shaw will be appointed to the position of Minister of Climate Change and
    Associate Minister for the Environment (Biodiversity).
    10. The Minister for the Prevention of Family and Sexual Violence will be the lead Minister for the whole
    of government response on family and sexual violence with the mandate to coordinate Budget bids
    in this area. The Minister will also be a member of the ad hoc Ministerial group on the Child and Youth
    Wellbeing Strategy.
    11. These Ministerial portfolios also reflect areas where Green Party expertise provides a valuable
    contribution to the Labour Government.
    12. Ministers from the Green Party will attend Cabinet Committees for items relevant to their portfolios
    and receive Cabinet Papers relevant to their portfolios, as provided for in the Cabinet Manual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    The Green-Labour cooperation agreement includes:

    Nature of agreement
    3. The Green Party agrees to support the Labour Government by not opposing votes on matters of
    confidence and supply for the full term of this Parliament. In addition, the Green Party will support
    the Labour Government on procedural motions in the House and at Select Committees on the
    terms set out in this agreement. This will provide New Zealanders with the certainty of a strong,
    stable Labour Government with support from the Green Party over the next three years.
    4. The Green Party will determine its own position in relation to any policy or legislative matter not
    covered by the Ministerial portfolios and areas of cooperation set out in this agreement. Differences
    of position within such portfolios and areas of cooperation will be managed in accordance with this
    agreement.

    5. The Labour Government in turn commits to working constructively with the Green Party to advance
    the policy goals set out in this agreement, alongside Labour’s policy programme.
    Ministerial positions
    6. The Labour Government’s priorities for this term centre on a COVID-19 recovery plan. This includes
    the implementation of Labour’s manifesto promises and five point economic plan, with a focus on
    investing in our people and preparing for the future.
    7. The Green Party’s aspirations include enabling a Just Transition to a zero-carbon economy;
    supporting equity, compassion and inclusive communities; ensuring ecosystems, indigenous
    species and their habitats thrive; and cultivating a flourishing democracy founded on Te Tiriti o
    Waitangi.
    8. This agreement supports the advance of the Government’s priorities by allocating portfolios and
    establishing areas of cooperation that are consistent with the direction and goals of the Labour
    Government, as well as contributing to addressing the Green Party’s aspirations.
    9. The Green Party will hold the following portfolios outside of Cabinet:
    A. Marama Davidson will be appointed to the position of Minister for the Prevention of
    Family and Sexual Violence and Associate Minister of Housing (Homelessness).
    B. Hon James Shaw will be appointed to the position of Minister of Climate Change and
    Associate Minister for the Environment (Biodiversity).
    10. The Minister for the Prevention of Family and Sexual Violence will be the lead Minister for the whole
    of government response on family and sexual violence with the mandate to coordinate Budget bids
    in this area. The Minister will also be a member of the ad hoc Ministerial group on the Child and Youth
    Wellbeing Strategy.
    11. These Ministerial portfolios also reflect areas where Green Party expertise provides a valuable
    contribution to the Labour Government.
    12. Ministers from the Green Party will attend Cabinet Committees for items relevant to their portfolios
    and receive Cabinet Papers relevant to their portfolios, as provided for in the Cabinet Manual.
    Considering the Protests were about Covid-19, that would be in breach of this agreement as per point 6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Why? Golriz Ghahraman is not a Labour party member - NZ Greens. The Greens are not the Government and Members of other parties are free to express their own opinions.
    Like a man and women unmarried but living together Greens and Labour’s life of sin is a clear Defacto Coalition government especially with all the evidence listed in the other posts.
    Given that’s govt is a business this unnecessary “coalition” should be prosecuted under the new cartel laws as its preventing a competitive environment and nz user said of govt services may not be getting best value for taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Like a man and women unmarried but living together Greens and Labour’s life of sin is a clear Defacto Coalition government especially with all the evidence listed in the other posts.
    Given that’s govt is a business this unnecessary “coalition” should be prosecuted under the new cartel laws as its preventing a competitive environment and nz user said of govt services may not be getting best value for taxes.
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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/police...NEM6RA73N4HEM/

    I wonder if police would issue same alert when climate mob next do same thing?????

    Interestingly at end of article apparently a proper survey of immigrants from the worlds 200 most horrible country tried to live rated nz second to last out of 52 countries they could go to.
    That says something when if your virtually stateless as well as homeless that you don’t really want to come to our welfare state wokestania first....

    Apparently Mexico is very popular.... maybe being able to make your own choices without interference from nanny state is a recipe for success after all, even for those who might need help. It’s time we took a hard look at how we run our society here.

    Btw that was a survey of 12,000 so decent sample size
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