Putin

[R650R]

So, another take from one LazerPig - It's quite Meme-y, but I came across this channel prior to any of this and his analysis on Weapons Systems is very interesting (even if he's completely wrong about the A-10 and my Beloved Brrrrt).

Note - this isn't about Politics, but about the pure Military aspect.

Gulf war was very clear mission and target though.
Putin is wanting to show he means business but avoid civilian casualties and destruction of critical infrastructure.
Same as Americans in Vietnam or Afghanistan it’s a clumsy type of battle to fight.

[TheDemonLord]

Gulf war was very clear mission and target though.
Putin is wanting to show he means business but avoid civilian casualties and destruction of critical infrastructure.
Same as Americans in Vietnam or Afghanistan it’s a clumsy type of battle to fight.

I've seen some other analysis - some pointing to the blown tyres on the ATVs as evidence of standard maintenance not being done on Russian Military equipment, which is hampering their ability to fight.

And this isn't new - Sub Brief also talked about the same thing with the Soviet (and later Russian) Subs - when they came out of the Factory, they were very quiet, but as time went on, the lack of Maintenance (compared to the USN and RN fleets) would make them increasingly easier to detect.

If this is the case and the Russian equipment hasn't been properly maintained, it could bog the Russian forces down allowing the Ukrainians to reap a heavy toll on them.

[Stylo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH34SIk6yIo

In some ways this is akin to Hitler wiping about the people that don't subcribe to his warped fantasy.

We're in 2022 now.

[F5 Dave]

Fun fact, its 98 years (give or take a week) since Hitler was tried for his crimes. He was given a light sentence and it made him hugely popular. Just before he was caught he was stopped from shooting himself.

Funny how things play out. A Hot war with Stalin would likely have replaced WW2 anyway.

[R650R]

Well we all should have seen this coming...

While western media has championed international mercenaries going to fight for Ukraine it seems Russia is going to play that card too... we all know what they will be called...
Quite ironic that western security will be threatened by a mechanism they helped build....
The resulting lawless bloodbath will prob see Russia welcomed in as peacekeepers...
After all this blows over Eastern Europe will end up as a haven for unemployed terrorists like Afghanistan.... maybe Putin has done his homework after all...4Dchess????
The plot thickens....

[nerrrd]

So this is basically now Cold War II, surely. I remember this feeling, I didn’t like it much back then either.

[husaberg]

Well we all should have seen this coming...

While western media has championed international mercenaries going to fight for Ukraine it seems Russia is going to play that card too... we all know what they will be called...
Quite ironic that western security will be threatened by a mechanism they helped build....
The resulting lawless bloodbath will prob see Russia welcomed in as peacekeepers...
After all this blows over Eastern Europe will end up as a haven for unemployed terrorists like Afghanistan.... maybe Putin has done his homework after all...4Dchess????
The plot thickens....

You do realize whilst you are trolling this site for the attention you lack in your day-to-day as you are generally unsuccessful unliked and generally irrelevant, thousands of innocent people are dying. Yet you knowingly choose to feed on this like a narcissistic twat..

[pritch]

Putin is wanting to show he means business but avoid civilian casualties and destruction of critical infrastructure.

You what ?

[TheDemonLord]

You what ?

I've seen this theory bandied about a bit, suffice to say - I'm skeptical as hell - but here's the 'rational':

Putin wanted to avoid a Desert Storm esque opening salvo that knocked out Power and communications, since although it worked, it meant that rebuilding afterwards takes ages and he didn't want to have a Ukraine that's back in the dark ages, because he's so kind and considerate....


As above - I don't buy this theory for a second.

[R650R]

You what ?

It doesn’t mean there will be zero... even the allies forces had blue on blue of friendly forces.
In a highly populated country a few civilian casualties and collateral damage (Reg trademark USA) are inevitable...

It’s Hardley Dresden or Hiroshima at this stage albeit there has likely been tragic circumstances already

[Viking01]

I've seen this theory bandied about a bit, suffice to say - I'm skeptical as hell - but here's the 'rational':
Putin wanted to avoid a Desert Storm esque opening salvo that knocked out Power and communications, since although it worked, it meant that rebuilding afterwards takes ages and he didn't want to have a Ukraine that's back in the dark ages, because he's so kind and considerate....


As above - I don't buy this theory for a second.

And you don't buy this theory (explanation) because .... ?

[nerrrd]

I would buy it too, on the understanding that in his mind, all the Ukrainians would be throwing flowers at their Russian liberators and if things did get sticky, all the civilians would be fleeing east into the comforting arms of mother Russia begging for his protection.

He’s been spectacularly wrong all round so far. What a genius.

[TheDemonLord]

And you don't buy this theory (explanation) because .... ?

'Never ascribe to Malice that which can be ascribed to Stupidity'

Or more specifically - I think the Russian Military lacks the Logistics, the Co-Ordination, The equipment etc. to pull it off.

[Pursang]

[Berries]

It doesn’t mean there will be zero... even the allies forces had blue on blue of friendly forces.
In a highly populated country a few civilian casualties and collateral damage (Reg trademark USA) are inevitable..

Have you been watching the news? Do you think they are just fireworks going off to make pretty shapes in the sky? "A few" civilian casualties? FFS, talk about an apologist for Russia.