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    Make of this what you may from Yahoo finance. At the end of the article it said it was AI generated and reviewed by an editor

    As the New Zealand general elections scheduled for October 14 approach, the right-wing ACT Party is gaining significant traction, which could potentially influence the formation of the next government. The party, led by David Seymour, has seen a surge in popularity that may result in a shift of power, according to recent polls.

    David Seymour, who gained public recognition through his participation in a popular dance competition show, is positioned to hold a key role in the ensuing administration. According to projections from recent polls, if the current ruling Labour Party is unseated, Seymour might ascend to a high-ranking position within the new government. His roles could range from a senior ministerial position to possibly even deputy prime minister.

    The strong polling performance of Seymour's ACT Party suggests that their support would be crucial for the National Party to establish a governing coalition. This scenario underscores the increasing political significance of the ACT Party in New Zealand's electoral landscape. The potential shift in power indicates an evolving political climate as voters prepare for the upcoming elections on Monday.
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    I would say most of the information the AI used is a bit out of date. As of right now NZ first looks to hold that political spot that act owned a few short weeks ago.

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    All of these polls - even though there is only one that really counts. However I have NEVER been polled for my political opinion. Anyone here ever been asked? Do they only poll to landline phones? That would mean they are only asking older (ie conservative, National /NZ First / ACT) supporting people. Young people don't have landlines, and many of them wont even answer a voice call to their mobiles, preferring only to communicate (?) by text
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Anyone here ever been asked? Do they only poll to landline phones? That would mean they are only asking older (ie conservative, National /NZ First / ACT) supporting people. Young people don't have landlines, and many of them wont even answer a voice call to their mobiles, preferring only to communicate (?) by text
    Yes I've been asked, there are a variety of online polls that cover this, I'm probably not helping being that I'm one of the definitely undecided voters in that I don't really like any of them at the moment.

    One thing that makes me wonder is how the poll results are extrapolated to come up with the number of seats graphic they so love on the telly news, are the 10-12% undecided just ignored or proportionally allocated to the other results?

    The two different approaches could give very different answers, depending on the reason why people are undecided, and if one of the parties hits the magic policy to get their votes.

    Anyway, more importantly it's time to figure out the rules for the election night drinking game, usually more entertaining than the election itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neels View Post
    Yes I've been asked, there are a variety of online polls that cover this, I'm probably not helping being that I'm one of the definitely undecided voters in that I don't really like any of them at the moment.

    One thing that makes me wonder is how the poll results are extrapolated to come up with the number of seats graphic they so love on the telly news, are the 10-12% undecided just ignored or proportionally allocated to the other results?

    The two different approaches could give very different answers, depending on the reason why people are undecided, and if one of the parties hits the magic policy to get their votes.

    Anyway, more importantly it's time to figure out the rules for the election night drinking game, usually more entertaining than the election itself.
    If you start by flagging every time Luxon says "actually" you'll be pissed long before the end of the night https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...topher%20Luxon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    However I have NEVER been polled for my political opinion. Anyone here ever been asked?
    Yes, years ago. Once it became apparent which political party was behind the poll I gave answers I hoped they wouldn't like. Again last week pollsters called, but I was in the middle of dinner so I declined to participate.



    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Do they only poll to landline phones?
    I believe this is the case. Certainly both of the calls I received were to the landline
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    Don’t consider myself young but it’s standard practice in todays world not to answer an unknown number that’s likely a telemarketer. If it’s important the person will leave a message or txt and then you phone them back.
    People lead different lives these days out cycling/gym/DIY on second property etc after work they not all sitting around having beer watching six o click news and coronation street like old days during week.
    I think lot of polls also happen door to door for good tv news quotes if it’s a media outlet polling.

    Back to Seymour he’s throwing himself u der the bus with his Winston fascination. But is it a tactic to trick people to vote ACT to try keep Winston out????
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    when Luxon was asked about Peters in the leaders debate, he pulled the old trump "I don't know him", thus attracting a well deserved round of laughter of derision from the audience - what a pillock

    If you are right R650, and it is a seymour plan to get more votes, it does not look to be working. I stand to be corrected after the election of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    when Luxon was asked about Peters in the leaders debate, he pulled the old trump "I don't know him", thus attracting a well deserved round of laughter of derision from the audience - what a pillock

    If you are right R650, and it is a seymour plan to get more votes, it does not look to be working. I stand to be corrected after the election of course.
    Yes indeed that was a careless remark by Luxon dig himself a whole there. He’s gonna need some lube when Winston calls lol Stuffs cartoon with the two of them on horse is on point hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Yes indeed that was a careless remark by Luxon dig himself a whole there. He’s gonna need some lube when Winston calls lol Stuffs cartoon with the two of them on horse is on point hilarious.
    If its anything like the graphic of putin and trump , shirtless, on horseback, it's horrible
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Don’t consider myself young but it’s standard practice in todays world not to answer an unknown number that’s likely a telemarketer.
    Brings to mind the case of the missing American tramper. The search and rescue people who were searching for him were calling his phone but there was no answer.
    When he was eventually found he was asked why he hadn't answered his phone. "It was an unknown number."

    When I first read that I thought he was crazy. I still think he was an idiot but it seems to be an epidemic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Brings to mind the case of the missing American tramper. The search and rescue people who were searching for him were calling his phone but there was no answer.
    When he was eventually found he was asked why he hadn't answered his phone. "It was an unknown number."

    When I first read that I thought he was crazy. I still think he was an idiot but it seems to be an epidemic.
    If he was actually “lost” wouldn’t he be dialling out on 911? Without knowing the details sounds like he was maybe overdue and they were trying to check up. Did they try texting???
    It’s also the number one way to stop getting scammed as you never start a conversation with scammer to start with.
    You grew up in an era where people respected phones even though you could easily look someone’s number up in phone book.
    Nowadays the gas company/electric/researchers et Al are 24/7 trying to contact people. Your phone is the new front door to your home life. You don’t open front door after dark to people you don’t know, you observe their actions from another angle before deciding a course of action. Call screening is exactly the same.
    Awhile ago an Uncle was organising an impromptu family event. Despite having my real phone number and knowing where I lived he contacted me via FB messenger. Now I don’t use FB every day and I don’t use the messenger app due to its terms so won’t see that unless I log in.
    He got upset about that and couldn’t deal with it where as the younger nieces and nephews knew how the world works now.
    You can call it what you want but there are 7 Billion people in the world, a few calls are going to go unanswered for a variety of reasons. Just look at the great President Biden , do you see him stopping mid press conference to answer phone calls???
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    I always answer unknown numbers in the hope that my computer has a virus again. My best is about 27 minutes of time wasting.

    Had a few lately trying to sell me investment products, very sharp telemarketers but not smart enough. Only managed 15 minutes so far.
    Manopausal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    I always answer unknown numbers in the hope that my computer has a virus again. My best is about 27 minutes of time wasting.

    Had a few lately trying to sell me investment products, very sharp telemarketers but not smart enough. Only managed 15 minutes so far.
    I’ve used the Seinfeld line few times and also said excuse me and left them hanging on the hook for 20mins to block one of their lines

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    If he was actually “lost” wouldn’t he be dialling out on 911? Without knowing the details sounds like he was maybe overdue and they were trying to check up. Did they try texting???
    Evidently not?


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