David Seymour

[sugilite:Me]

He knew 5 days before, but slipped his mind to tell the education minister.
Fuck off seymour

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360...-tell-stanford

[neels]

He knew 5 days before, but slipped his mind to tell the education minister.
Fuck off seymour

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360...-tell-stanford

The headline is probably factually accurate, there is however a degree of insinuation with the use of the word 'still' to imply there was some sort of omission or deception involved.

Reading the actual detail of the article, Seymour was briefed by ministry of education officials, and then passed the information on to the prime ministers office. It wouldn't be unreasonable to expect that the ministry should be the ones informing their minister, or the prime ministers office informing one of their ministers of such information.

This looks very much like the media trying to beat up a story that places blame where it doesn't belong, to keep the school lunch debacle (which it is) in the news.

[F5 Dave]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3609...school-lunches

Read the article and depending on you alliance

a) Agree with David that the real issue can be fixed with some mild character assassination and deflection.
Or
b) go, golly that looks like a real food safety breech that should be treated the same as if your local restaurant was reported to the authority.

And that's why that sleezebag is not to be trusted and certainly shouldn't be given power again.

They did a fact check on how much money his red tape cuts have saved the taxpayers. It's looking pretty neutral despite him calling it a success. Just political posturing so that he can be a media frequent flier as he puts it.

[sugilite:Me]

All good points F5.
I have been very disappointed with his performance. Something I found disturbing is when he was being interviewed regarding his "small sheds can be close to fences now" victory - he then turned around and said that one of his next targets was the requirements of food producers to label the contents of its products. Seymour said "who wants to have every thing listed down on the packaging anyways? Stuff then ran a poll, and something like 60 odd percent of people do indeed want to know. The only thing I can possibly think of that would motivate seymour to pursue such a thing is he is earning his political donations by wanting to make it easier for "big food" likely American companies in particular flooding NZ with ultra processed food. He had no problems obtaining the shitiest food outcome for school lunches, now he wants to screw us all. My stomach really suffered the 1.5 years I lived in the States and would hate to see the same thing happen here.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...ildren-healthy

[pritch]

My stomach really suffered the 1.5 years I lived in the States and would hate to see the same thing happen here.

Video clips advising Americans of the differences between what food additives are permitted in the US compared to Europe seem to be proliferating. Even US bread contains a number of chemicals, including Glyphosate. People who have to eat gluten free bread in the US find that they can eat any bread in Europe without problems.

[F5 Dave]

I'm beginning to think that the state should allocate a budget to fund political parties and their electionaring. (Let's say $5000 for now. I hate billboards).

Yes it would be expensive but it could massively cut down corruption by donation.

Any political entity would be disbarred for four years if any money was found to have been accepted.

We would probably end up in a cycle of new parties, each more invested in doing good for the country and citizens than the last.

[husaberg]

All good points F5.
I have been very disappointed with his performance. Something I found disturbing is when he was being interviewed regarding his "small sheds can be close to fences now" victory - he then turned around and said that one of his next targets was the requirements of food producers to label the contents of its products. Seymour said "who wants to have every thing listed down on the packaging anyways? Stuff then ran a poll, and something like 60 odd percent of people do indeed want to know. The only thing I can possibly think of that would motivate seymour to pursue such a thing is he is earning his political donations by wanting to make it easier for "big food" likely American companies in particular flooding NZ with ultra processed food. He had no problems obtaining the shitiest food outcome for school lunches, now he wants to screw us all. My stomach really suffered the 1.5 years I lived in the States and would hate to see the same thing happen here.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...ildren-healthy

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...g-money-donors


https://elections.nz/democracy-in-nz...ceeding-20000/

Seymour is a total smeghead

[neels]

Video clips advising Americans of the differences between what food additives are permitted in the US compared to Europe seem to be proliferating. Even US bread contains a number of chemicals, including Glyphosate. People who have to eat gluten free bread in the US find that they can eat any bread in Europe without problems.

I know a couple of people who were suspected to be gluten intolerant, who found a decent bakery to buy bread from that they could eat without any issues.

Saw this a while ago, an interesting watch. But not a new thing, watched something else recently that I can't put my finger on about how in victorian england they put plaster in bread to make it whiter and used borax to hide the fact that milk had gone off.

[pete376403]

[QUOTE=neels;1131242191]
Saw this a while ago, an interesting watch. But not a new thing, watched something else recently that I can't put my finger on about how in victorian england they put plaster in bread to make it whiter and used borax to hide the fact that milk had gone off.

Read a doozy last night about 1850s New York milk supplies and how children were dying unexpectedly - that huge barns were built holding many hundreds of cows, fed with waste from adjacent breweries. Cows would only last about 6 months before dying, riddled with disease. "milk" was thin, watery and would have plaster, rotten eggs, starch, molasses, etc added to make it appear normal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swill_...20masked%20the