Isle of Man TT 2022

[onearmedbandit]

I can't see the reasoning. As a good friend said to me last night, "I'd never do it but I sure wouldn't stop anyone else from doing it". I don't understand why people who are not affected by an event seem to think they should have input into whether others do it or not.

[Reckless]

I can't see the reasoning. As a good friend said to me last night, "I'd never do it but I sure wouldn't stop anyone else from doing it". I don't understand why people who are not affected by an event seem to think they should have input into whether others do it or not.

Fair comment and I agree
The danger is if there are to many fatalities next year someone might step in and decide these crazy characters need protecting from themselves.
Risk vs reward might start effecting entries as well It is a cult tho it seems if you go you have big balls and you bloody well have
There is a few posties that wont race Whanganui and a couple that wont race Puke even over here LOL

Each to their own I guess. I do admire everyone who slings there leg over a seat for a lap around the TT

[george formby]

I can't see the reasoning. As a good friend said to me last night, "I'd never do it but I sure wouldn't stop anyone else from doing it". I don't understand why people who are not affected by an event seem to think they should have input into whether others do it or not.

This conversation is being held all over teh internets. I suspect it's due to the TT being so spectacular and growing in world wide popularity due to the internet. Netizens think they have a right to an opinion..

To my mind it's not possible to discuss TT safety without broadening the conversation to include all the other high risk sports which do not have the same level of coverage or appeal.

IIRC the average lifespan of a professional wingsuit flyer is 10 years.. Don't quote me, read it on the internet.

We should discuss banning mountain's, too. Bloody steep, dangerous things, people are always falling off them.

[jellywrestler]

This conversation is being held all over teh internets. I suspect it's due to the TT being so spectacular and growing in world wide popularity due to the internet. Netizens think they have a right to an opinion..

To my mind it's not possible to discuss TT safety without broadening the conversation to include all the other high risk sports which do not have the same level of coverage or appeal.

what people fail to take into account with the TT is that the meeting is two weeks long, with hundreds of entrants, and it runs twice a year with the manx grand prix/classic tt as well, So. statistically other risky places might only run for one weekend, maybe a four day event, with half the riders, not an apples for apples balance there.

[jellywrestler]

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There is a few posties that wont race Whanganui and a couple that wont race Puke even over here LOL

half of them are too scared to say the wife won't let them out at christmas, but blame the circuit for that.

[SaferRides]

2022 was always likely to be a bad year for accidents as it's the first TT for 3 years. The IoM has its own government, so it's unlikely to stop as it must be a major source of income for the island. But it can't continue at 5 + deaths a year.

I used to be anti until I watched Closer to the Edge, and gained some understanding of why people do it. It's probably the motorcycling equivalent of an extreme sport.

There have been serious efforts by the organisers to make it safer, but there will always be crashes, and they are unlikely to end well.

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[onearmedbandit]

But it can't continue at 5 + deaths a year.

Serious question. Why can't it? No one is forced to race there, they're adults choosing to compete for their own reasons.

[F5 Dave]

Ohh. 5 points for saying "The throttle works both ways"

But seriously, home sick, now I've just spent a while watching wing suit flying. How do they not hit badly placed trees? Maybe they do occasionally.

[sidecar bob]

A current TT competitor remarked to me recently "if I crash to my death at the TT my last thought won't be, well this seems an impossible outcome"

[pete376403]

On average, 5 people die every year attempting to climb Mt Everest. Climbers are so accepting of this that they have no issue stepping over dead or dying people. No shortage of people lining up to make the attempt, and no (afaik) internet outrage.

You pays your money and you takes your choice,

[F5 Dave]

Wife bought me that Inglis book where they couldn't save that climber and there was outrage including Hillary. Jeez its not like he was the person to go, hey, we've got spare capacity to sling you over my shoulder.

Haven't read it. Probably still sick tomorrow. Don't think I'll start it. More likely to sneak into the garage and strip a dirtbike engine if I have the energy.

Or go onto wingsuit jump sites and give my opinion on how they should be more responsible and not scare birds.

[JimO]

Wouldn't call Croz a wowser considering his record there. Perhaps you have more experience?

my comment had nothing to do with croz, i was just pointing out that the "ban everything" crowd will be itching to put a end to the carnage at the TT

[SaferRides]

Sky can't even show the races in order.

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[Saul123]

I would however regard his ramblings on the topic as out of date, emotive, and irrelevant to the situation, but exactly what the media required to create a saleable story that supported their agenda.

Totally Agree.

[SaferRides]

Serious question. Why can't it? No one is forced to race there, they're adults choosing to compete for their own reasons.

Simply because there is a point at which it could not continue because of the death rate.

I expect this year was an outlier and it will be lower next year.

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