MotoGP 2023

[onearmedbandit]

I'm in a small Discord group and one of the members is a Moto2 rider, he said the penalties were discussed with all riders before the first race, first offense is LL, then pit lane start, then ride through. He didn't mention whether they are cumulative or not but I'll ask him.

They have come with new rules this year
They introduced in the briefing
1x incident = this penalty
2x incident = this penalty
3x incident = this penalty
Ofc getting worse and worse
Then the ‘incident’ has different categories, hitting another rider out in a aggressive/ stupid way is one
But for example also for slow sectors
It’s literally in the rules like this
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Ofcourse I don’t remember the different ‘categories’ nor the penalties received for them, but, iirc taking another rider out in a aggressive way or something like that is
2x LL
Pitlane start
Ride through

[iYRe]

ahh yeah, the 3rd was long lap..

[onearmedbandit]

Confirmed as cumulative.

[F5 Dave]

And 4th time it is Mawamba from the victims team.

[Reckless]

Confirmed as cumulative.

Now that is interesting so no reset after the punishment, cumulative over the season.
I wonder if that is affecting their decisions this early because they realise the impact and knock on effect of harsh penalties in race 1 weekend.
Lets see if they have the balls to make it happen

I also think they are possibly a bit softer on the Big boys and harsher on moto3 to send the message for when your going 300k plus.
BUT maybe MM and the uproar over this incident has changed all that now for MotogGP. Interesting stuff LOL

The MM knock on effect

[iYRe]

Honda is appealing because they changed the decision, so who knows what will happen now

[Reckless]

Honda is appealing because they changed the decision, so who knows what will happen now

yes The saga that never ends just shows the stewards have to get it 100% right first time as there is too much at stake and the legal issues start to overtake the sport . This isn't going to go down well with the Punters

off Moto GP site
FIM Appeal Stewards refer Marquez' case to Court of Appeal
After an appeal from Marquez and Repsol Honda, the case is now going to the MotoGP™ Court of Appeal
Following an appeal from Marc Marquez and the Repsol Honda Team, the FIM Appeal Stewards have decided to refer the matter to the MotoGP™ Court of Appeal “for the adequate resolution of the case.”
On Sunday, FIM MotoGP™ Stewards gave Marquez a Double Long Lap penalty for the Gran Premio Michelin® de la República Argentina MotoGP™ race.

On Tuesday, the FIM MotoGP™ Stewards published the following:
“Considering the injury and non-participation of Marc Marquez, Rider #93, at the GRAN PREMIO MICHELIN® DE LA REPÚBLICA ARGENTINA, and with a view to comply with the intention underlying the decision taken by the FIM MotoGP™ Stewards Panel, the Double Long Lap Penalty shall be served by the Rider at the next MotoGP™ Race in which he will be able to participate.”

This triggered an appeal from Marquez and the Repsol Honda Team. The FIM Appeal Stewards have now referred it to the MotoGP™ Court of Appeal.


Just spotted Honda's side - Most of the internet is screaming bad sports suck it up and serve the penalty. I reckon I agree

Repsol Honda make statement on "FIM penalty modification"
The Repsol Honda Team have issued a statement following Tuesday's FIM Stewards update on Marc Marquez' Portuguese GP penalty
Tags MotoGP, 2023, Marc Marquez
The Repsol Honda Team have released the following statement:

"In relation to the sanction imposed by the FIM on Marc Marquez for the race incident that occurred at the Portuguese Grand Prix, the Repsol Honda Team considers that the modification of the penalty consisted of a change of criteria on when the penalty should be applied, and that this modification was issued by the FIM two days after the initial sanction was final and definitive, is not in line with the current regulations of the FIM for the MotoGP™ World Championship. For this reason, the Repsol Honda Team intends to use all the means of recourse offered by the regulations in force to defend its rights and legitimate interests, which it considers violated as a result of the latest resolution adopted, and in particular has duly submitted an Appeal before the FIM Appeal Stewards."

[Metastable]

Confirmed as cumulative.

Hmmm…. It will be interesting to see who the clean/most punished riders are at the end of the year.

[jato]

0600 sunday for the next sprint race - a fan at this stage but i don't want to see guys getting carted off. I recall way back that our own nationals always had a fair bit of carnage at the first round, and then people seemed to settle down a bit to focus on collecting points .

[Grumph]

0600 sunday for the next sprint race - a fan at this stage but i don't want to see guys getting carted off. I recall way back that our own nationals always had a fair bit of carnage at the first round, and then people seemed to settle down a bit to focus on collecting points .

For a long while the first round was always Puke. The Puke specialists among the locals always made it hard for anyone else. Then once the sponsors had handed out a bollocking about how many more rounds there were, most settled down. By the SI a lot were in holiday mode.

The sprint race reminded me of Ruapuna in the 70's. Plenty of body contact. When i came back to ride classics, Ray Shearman took me aside and said " Motorcycle racing is no longer a contact sport " Jeeze Ray, you've taken all the fun out of it .

[Metastable]

MotoGP needs more riders from other places. Spain has an insane feeder system. There are 16 or 18 riders from Spain and Italy, then 2 Frenchies, a Portuguese, a South African, an Aussie and a Japanese rider. Not a single rider from the Americas. Heck there aren’t any European riders from outside Latin Europe…. mind boggling….. no Brits, Germans, Scandinavians. It should be the best of the best; however, it lessens the appeal of a world championship when a few countries dominate the entire grid.

[iYRe]

Well, that was a helluva sprint reace. Not gonna spoil it.. but OMG.

[pritch]

The idea of a sprint race seemed a bit desperate and likely to cause additional casualties over a long season. That latest effort though certainly didn't lack interest.

[george formby]

After last weeks banzai charge, and this weeks, I'm certainly thinking about the toll it will take on riders

Max Von Strapon, the F1 driver, has voiced his disapproval at adding more sprint races to the Scaletrix class.

As it stands, I think it's bloody great that I can watch some racing on a Sunday arvo. Just watched the Argentinian sprint and I'm currently being wafted with a cool, damp, flannel.

[Reckless]

The riders seem to be really enjoying the sprints, all had good things to say about today's race.
Saw a vid Of Luca in the cart to the presentation he seemed tired.
Miller was grinning ear to ear about the cut and thrust.

I agree for me it's the best thing Really made a big difference to the excitement level of the whole weekend.