MotoGP 2023

[sugilite:Me]

The question is, I know AM is thriving on the Duc, but would MM? He has said he prefers a bike that is more ... err.. manual - he wants to be able to make it do stuff... Can he do that on the Ducati?

I reckon so, class is class. He can extract way more out of that Honda than any other honda rider, He would exploit all the ducatis abilities beyond what any other rider could (IMHO). The cream always rises to the top and all that.

[iYRe]

I reckon so, class is class. He can extract way more out of that Honda than any other honda rider, He would exploit all the ducatis abilities beyond what any other rider could (IMHO). The cream always rises to the top and all that.

Yeah, I thought that too, but still, he has been on the record saying there is too much aero and electronics. I just feel like he would resist the urge, where as his brother will take anything better

[Reckless]

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Just watched P1 and P2

These new sprints and the effect on Q1 and Q2 have made the whole weekend "a race weekend" no time for cruising in any session Love it

Must also compliment Jack Appleyard on his Q&A with team principles. He isn't taking any prisoners LOL Good Stuff

[jato]

Another good sprint race - i noticed Quatararo constantly having "mini saves" on that yamaha (until he didn't). and still getting blitzed on the straights by everything else - must be so dis-heartening...

[iYRe]

Another good sprint race - i noticed Quatararo constantly having "mini saves" on that yamaha (until he didn't). and still getting blitzed on the straights by everything else - must be so dis-heartening...

Yeah.. him and the honda riders are just having to push beyond the limits of the bikes..

[jato]

The dirt in Texas must be flavoursome ... so many tucking the front... now i know someone who might have put a lump of money on maverick before the season started - he was paying $40 at the time. I think the only way to collect would be to take a decent shanghai to every startline and zap him in the arse just as the lights go out... he certainly knows how to ride

[BMWST?]

how does that happen ? We all know that Mr Rins is classy but not 1 other Honda even finished!

[iYRe]

Well, the good news is everyone got points I guess

[James Deuce]

how does that happen ? We all know that Mr Rins is classy but not 1 other Honda even finished!

Because he's using the lost art of throttle management to control tyre wear. The rest of them are pinning it and binning it, thinking that the electronics will sort it. Rins' tyre wear is markedly dissimilar to the other Honda riders.

[Reckless]

Simon Crafar did some analysis
off MotoGP and they speak about it in After the flag.
Seems different tracks also make a big difference lately look at Bezz for example over the last 2 races.
We shall see

SIMON SAYS: Is Austin a turning point for Rins and Honda?
Former 500cc Grand Prix winner and motogp.com's expert analyst Simon Crafar speaks on the Spaniard's remarkable COTA performance
Tags MotoGP, 2023, RED BULL GRAND PRIX OF THE AMERICAS, Alex Rins
LCR Honda Castrol's Alex Rins was nothing short of sensational at the Red Bull Grand Prix of the Americas as he took his first win for Honda in only his third competitive appearance. His victory comes after finishing 11.5 and 14 seconds adrift of the eventual race winner in the opening two Grands Prix of the season, highlighting the technical deficiencies he was forced to overcome in Austin. But how was he able to do it?

Former 500cc Grand Prix winner and now motogp.com's very own Simon Crafar picked apart the Spaniard's performance in Sunday's episode of After The Flag. The Kiwi was keen to stress how the former Suzuki man's "natural talent and feel" was crucial to his quick adaptation to the radically different RC213V, before looking a bit deeper into what helped Rins become the first Honda rider other than Marc Marquez to take victory in over five years.

"I've done a bit of digging over the past few days," started Crafar after Sunday's race. "Listening to riders and trying to find out how Alex can do this when the other Honda riders can't. He has a different riding style. The reason we all thought that Joan Mir would suit the Honda more is because he has more of a V4 style. He sits slightly further back, he’s a hard braker, slows it down a little bit more and then fires it out of the corner, which is how V4 riders normally ride.

"Alex has turned up with a more flowing style, carrying corner speed, and it turns out that that helps Honda. They have such a lack of rear grip and struggle to get the tyre to drive them off the turn, if you slow it down, stand it up and fire it off the corner then the thing just lights up. But Alex, by flowing, has masked some of that disadvantage and mastered it amazingly here.

"I know all the Honda guys have been looking at his data trying to figure out how and what he's doing. Taka for example said that he rides it more like a Moto2 bike, just carrying that corner speed. What a job. I just hope that Honda can improve that disadvantage so all the Honda riders can be competitive like him.
The next question, of course, is where Honda goes from here. Eight-time World Champion Marc Marquez is expected to return next time out at the Spanish Grand Prix, but after seeing Honda's top brass - Tetsuhiro Kuwata (HRC Director), Shinichi Kokubu (Technical Director) and Ken Kawauchi (Technical Manager) - all celebrating their new star's win, will HRC put more weight behind Rins' comments and reposition their line of development away from solely suiting Marquez.

It's something Rins himself was crying out before the weekend got underway, admitting to the press on Thursday that he felt "wasted" by Honda and that they "relied very little" on him. This victory will no doubt help his standing within the factory but it remains to be seen how much impact it will have, and whether Austin will truly be the turning point that Honda and their four premier class stars have been crying out for.

[iYRe]

Bloody good analysis, i think Keith from Crash said something similar, and also someone else on the interwebs on some shite channel.

If carrying more corner speed is the solution, MM will carry more corner speed than anyone else, I have no doubt he'd adapt.

[Autech]

Bloody spewing. Had a $100 bet punched in for Rins before the race weekend when he was paying $35 and I chickened out. Good to see though, legend!

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[george formby]

Interestin to read what the clever folk think about Rins race.

It looked to me on one particular corner of the circuit he was letting the back of the bike kick out at the apex, at max lean, with the front slightly crossed up. He did it pretty much every lap.

When he flicked the bike back up it was on the perfect line for the next bend. I was very impressed.

[Autech]

Ever since he sorted out his body position on the bike last year he's had awesome front end control. Love watching him ride

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[george formby]

Ever since he sorted out his body position on the bike last year he's had awesome front end control. Love watching him ride

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He doesn't pop up like a startled Meerkat anymore.