Unmasking Elon Musk

[R650R]

Was the delorian bulletproof? It won't matter. It never does. Different r cool, specially when ya savin the planet like.



Isn't that what the whole looking for investors things is about? You have an idea that needs funding and the rich part with $ if they see an ROI at any stage of development. Who knows what he has up his sleeve. Praps a trip into making that phone he floated. Oh the monopoly he could wield. And tomorrow Pinky........



That 5 minute City the WEF put out looked kinda nice. Personally, I'm alright with the notion of a 15 minute city. Things are a little crazy around planet earth at the moment so blah blah blah.

Looking for investors is fine if you have a sound proof of concept/business plan. But Musk survives on cult of personality with a big dollop of California startup pie in sky dreams stuff.

15minute cities are gulags, some may be fine with them but it’s definately not thevkiwi way of life.

[mashman]

Looking for investors is fine if you have a sound proof of concept/business plan. But Musk survives on cult of personality with a big dollop of California startup pie in sky dreams stuff.

15minute cities are gulags, some may be fine with them but it’s definately not thevkiwi way of life.

Indeed. FTX and Theranos being the 2 most recent that I've seen would state that the potential for cash often meets with sound proofs of concept/business plans and still end in tears. Risk eh. Some can afford it, some just get to suffer the consequences. Musk, as yet, is far from that point and moving forwards according to share price and so on...

As an almost youngun I lived in a wee toon that you could walk from one end of to the other in about 15 minutes. Great pork pies at the petrol stations bookending two of the exists and a roundabout with a favourable camber for finding out how far over you couldn't lean offering fun at the other. They have their merits... something we're unlikely to get to again.

[nerrrd]

Yes IÂ’ll agree that has been very successful but likely Musk has done is but/finance someone elseÂ’s intellectual knowledge. Bit like saying Trump is an expert at building casinos. Plus itÂ’s the whole private enterprise thing compared to a money sucking govt agency like nasa.
But he goes on to make ridiculous claims that shows he has no clear mechanical/physics understanding and doesnÂ’t do research of how it would work. Thunderfoots videos posted earlier showing the lack of space for 100 people to travel to mars, Lack of space for water/food etc, and the silly idea of landing vertically on a foreign planet, how does everyone get out etc.
He makes outlandish claims during media interviews, you can see he just making it up on the spot. And then he just runs with it, never says hey I prob was a bit optimistic on that etc...

SpaceX has a couple of billion dollars worth of contracts from NASA, they've taken over servicing the ISS and regularly launch payloads for the US military as well. I doubt if they'd still be in business if they had to rely on income from private enterprise. NASA's Artemis programme is relying on SpaceX to build the lander for the moon, so at least they'll be able to practise there first. They'll need multiple successful launches of that giant booster just to do that, but it should be achievable.

As far as I'm concerned, sending squishy humans any further into space than that is nuts, and I'm not convinced it will ever happen. Which is why you need someone like Elon running this kind of thing, with enough ambition to try it anyway so that they can prove people like me wrong (eventually).

[Beekeeper]

Elon has something, hubris, hucksterism, wealthy parents... whatever but if you look carefully there's a lot of bullshit and a lot of good luck. Tesla is struggling, they have gone from huge wait lists to discounts as other manufacturers offer EV's that are better/cheaper and dont have the musk stench. I predict Tesla will be just another minor player in that space unless they ditch boy wonder and put real execs in charge.

On the subject of EV's, we are going to have fossil vehicles pretty much forever. You simply cannot produce the minerals in the quantities needed to build solar/wind power and car batteries. Its a greenie pipe dream, now what this means is that despite the touchy feelie lets transition to electric (BULLSHIT) by (pick a bogus date) its never going to happen and the cost of the batteries (minerals) is going to go through the roof. Moreover how the fuck do these drongos think they are going to charge all these cars? Well Ill tell you how we do it now, coal!

Our bikes are a green as they get, also fuck that musk cunt.

[pritch]

Musk has ideas, usually somebody else's, and he's apparently a great salesman. For me his abilities were summed up in his suggestion of a submarine to extract the Thai kids trapped in a cave. A nice idea but completely absurd in reality.

[Beekeeper]

Musk has ideas, usually somebody else's, and he's apparently a great salesman. For me his abilities were summed up in his suggestion of a submarine to extract the Thai kids trapped in a cave. A nice idea but completely absurd in reality.

Then calling the guy that rescued them a pedo- musk is a class act.

How about his hyperloop or boring company or EV truck which totally sucks...

[pritch]

Then calling the guy that rescued them a pedo- musk is a class act.

How about his hyperloop or boring company or EV truck which totally sucks...

The Pom rescuer sued Musk but lost. He wouldn't have known, but his lawyer was one of Trump's band of merry misfits. They don't win many cases it seems.

[sugilite:Me]

I'm sure this would have nothing to do with Elon wanting to force Ukraine towards his previously touted so called "peace" plan.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe...elon-musk-says

[TheDemonLord]

I'm sure this would have nothing to do with Elon wanting to force Ukraine towards his previously touted so called "peace" plan.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe...elon-musk-says

I'm also sure it has nothing to do with it.

There's a rather long history of so-called 'Dual-Use' technology having caveats and restrictions placed on it for Commercial use, so as to disallow it being used in a Military context.

GPS springs to mind with the restrictions on altitude and speed for Commercial receivers.

SpaceX for civilian use, to communicate with their families, flee from the front-line etc. is all completely fine.

SpaceX being used for Military purposes (Intel sharing/gathering, troop co-ordination etc.) is an issue.

Kinda like if you have a Red Cross or a Red Crescent on a vehicle and you do anything other than help the wounded. If you start using technology that has a legitimate civilian use, for a military use - then it becomes a legitimate target.

The Lusitania is a good example - regardless of which side of the story you place more weight on - was she a Passenger liner and so not a legitimate target, or did the presence of her carrying Ammunition and Explosives mean she was a legitimate military target?

[sugilite:Me]

Yes, I'm sure left unchecked it will be sure to start world war 3. Save the world elon I beg you.

[TheDemonLord]

Yes, I'm sure left unchecked it will be sure to start world war 3. Save the world elon I beg you.

The issue is that if a foreign entity (SpaceX/Starlink) is providing military resources to the Ukraine, that entity is now a legitimate military target.

There's a fair amount of precedent in Submarine warfare in WW1/WW2 where vessels that were flagged under neutral nations, but where supplying materiel to the enemy became targets.

Now, would Russia launch an attack on SpaceX/Starlink? Before the invasion I'd have said no - that's suicidal and guarantees an escalation of the War.

But then I thought the same thing about the initial invasion and I was wrong on that point.

it, in of itself, might not lead to WW3, but it could be a key link in a chain of events that lead to escalation.

[pritch]

Starting at 1.00PM tomorrow, Australian Eastern time, Hyundai Australia are "dumping" hundreds of Ionic 5 and Ioniq 6 cars online. The word "dumping" may be sales hyperbole but it's an indication that Australians have not been rushing to buy electric cars if they need discount inducements like this.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Starting at 1.00PM tomorrow, Australian Eastern time, Hyundai Australia are "dumping" hundreds of Ionic 5 and Ioniq 6 cars online. The word "dumping" may be sales hyperbole but it's an indication that Australians have not been rushing to buy electric cars if they need discount inducements like this.

Tesla model 3 was the number 1 selling car in OZ for the month of January.

No one gives a fuck about an electric Hyundai.

[george formby]

Tesla model 3 was the number 1 selling car in OZ for the month of January.

No one gives a fuck about an electric Hyundai.

No, that's just you.

Our local health board runs a fleet of electric Hundays. Can't get moved for the buggers round here.

I guess it's because they are rational, not elitist. The health board, that is.

[TheDemonLord]

Starting at 1.00PM tomorrow, Australian Eastern time, Hyundai Australia are "dumping" hundreds of Ionic 5 and Ioniq 6 cars online. The word "dumping" may be sales hyperbole but it's an indication that Australians have not been rushing to buy electric cars if they need discount inducements like this.

I'd hazard a guess that the uniqueness of the Australian outback and the big distances between some cities is a limiting factor.