View Poll Results: Who is Elon Musk

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  • An absolute Einstein level Genius

    2 9.52%
  • An absolute hustler Ponzi/pyramid schemer

    6 28.57%
  • Good intentions but poor conceptually

    2 9.52%
  • Seeks credit/wealth from others existing ideas

    7 33.33%
  • Klaus Schwab/Elite puppet distraction tool

    0 0%
  • A Jules Verne visionary ahead of his time

    4 19.05%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laava View Post
    Quick, we need a plunger!!!
    I'd recommend more fibre or add some prune juice to your diet, this should help with your toilet blockage.

    Al Bundy's always here to help give advice to poor peasants!

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    Our local fanboi alBummy should get one of these! And hook his flappy lips up to it! That'd be a twofer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bundy 4eva! View Post
    Profit margins on every $100 spent making a vehicle ice or ev

    For you dummies, for every $100 Tesla spends it grosses $115.60 or $15.60 return

    The new opposition like Rivian run a negative loss of -$407.2 for every $100 spent

    Ice gas guzzlers have to cannibalize their own profits on their gas powered cars to fund their money losing ev fleet.


    FERRARI $18.2
    TESLA $15.6
    BMW $12.6
    MERCEDES $9.5
    TOYOTA $9.1
    MAHINDRA $7.9
    GM $6.5
    HONDA $4.9
    FORD $4.8
    BYD $4.3
    NISSAN $2

    TATA - $4.3
    NIO - $29.8
    LUCID - $214.5
    RIVIAN - $407.2
    Gross return on investment is not profit. There’s will be other costs taxes and losses. Tesla makes money by selling carbon credits as all its manufacturing is EV, however this loophole won’t last forever.
    Elon makes his big dollars by hyping share price with vapourware promises
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Gross return on investment is not profit. There’s will be other costs taxes and losses. Tesla makes money by selling carbon credits as all its manufacturing is EV, however this loophole won’t last forever.
    Elon makes his big dollars by hyping share price with vapourware promises
    Yeah I never really understood this argument about carbon credits, last time I checked it was only 3% of total revenue so most analyst including myself don't bother adding it to Teslas earnings forcast

    Anyway, if you own a farm,oil company or whatever that's carbon negative you buy the credits of Tesla or similar companies to stay operational

    What's the big deal, it's just another tax that can be avoided by becoming more compliant? Perhaps Solar roofs, electrify your vehicle fleet or whatever, the point is, if you can't be bothered then buy some off Tesla..so what?

    P.S I didn't say gross return was profit, the list shows the return on every $100 spent by these car companies, obviously gross loses are in the $100.

    Rivian, what a joke, that company shares are down -90%

    Spends 100 bucks and makes a loss of -$407...me finks bankruptcy around the corner lol

    The only thing that can save these negative cashflow companies is praying that the Fed starts lowering interest rates so debt can keep them on life support..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bundy 4eva! View Post
    Yeah I never really understood this argument about carbon credits, last time I checked it was only 3% of total revenue so most analyst including myself don't bother adding it to Teslas earnings forcast

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    https://www.autoweek.com/news/green-...oin-than-cars/


    Tesla Made More Money Selling Credits and Bitcoin Than Cars
    Tesla’s bitcoin bet paid off, while Model S and Model X production came to a halt in the first quarter of 2021.
    Emissions credits accounted for $518 million in revenue in a quarter that saw a pretax income of $533 million and a net income of $438 million on a GAAP basis. Needless to say, the credits account for almost the entirety of Tesla's profit for this quarter—in fact, sales of emissions credits have been a major source of revenue for Tesla for quite some time, contributing to hundreds of millions in income for the past few quarters. The automaker accumulates regulatory credits because it produces only EVs and sells them for a profit to other automakers that are short of these credits.



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    1- Your article is from 2021, it's 2023


    2- Tesla earned just under $54 billion in the fiscal year for 2021 which is why I don't bother including the measly $500 million in carbon credits for my Tesla financial forcasts


    3- Your a dummy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bundy 4eva! View Post
    1- Your article is from 2021, it's 2023


    2- Tesla earned just under $54 billion in the fiscal year for 2021 which is why I don't bother including the measly $500 million in carbon credits for my Tesla financial forcasts


    3- Your a dummy.

    AL BUNDY HAS SPOKEN!!!...all shall worship my greatness!!! Al Bundy has spokennnn....
    Only issues is your quote of 3% was actually from 2021....
    oh knows....
    According to Tesla's 2021 financial report, its carbon credit revenue accounted for only 3% of its total revenue, which is 3% less than that in 2020. This shows that Tesla is becoming less dependent on carbon credit revenue.

    The figure below shows Tesla's carbon credit revenue from 2018 to 2021. It nearly tripled between 2019 to 2020. In 2021, it brought Tesla nearly US$1.5 billion in revenue, slightly lower than that in 2020.
    When Tesla No Longer Benefits from Carbon Credits Fiat Chrysler has been Tesla's largest carbon trading customer for the past three years. From 2019 to 2021, Fiat Chrysler spent US$2.4 billion (around NT$66.8 billion) on buying carbon credits from Tesla. In other words, Fiat Chrysler has accounted for nearly all of Tesla's recent revenue from carbon trading. In 2021, the shareholders approved the merge of the two major automakers, Fiat Chrysler and Peugeot Citroen. They will use Peugeot Citroen's EV technology to meet the requirements of the EU carbon emissions regulations and will no longer need to buy additional carbon credits. This is true for not just Fiat Chrysler. As major automakers pursue the development of EV technology, carbon credit profits from selling electric vehicles will decline increasingly.
    Ps if your going to say you're a dummy spell it right, bozo and Austgtr used to make the same mistake....



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    Arsestinger! I was trying to remember that name just the other day. I saw mr goodbye use these symbols ^^ when replying to someones post without quoting them and I immediately thought it was the returnof ole arsestinger.
    So now he is reborn as a smart, wealthy business tycoon with the trolling skills of a three year old. Tracks about right.

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    Well he's definately not Boner! Boner would always try to hit on all the hetero men. Maybe the out of reachness was appealing to him?
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    Biking community , please join me

    Let us pray..

    Please God, don't let Starship explode tomorrow, this will likely dump Teslas share price and I could lose hundreds of thousands in capital

    Amen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bundy 4eva! View Post
    Biking community , please join me

    Let us pray..

    Please God, don't let Starship explode tomorrow, this will likely dump Teslas share price and I could lose hundreds of thousands in capital

    Amen.
    Is this the rocket that is supposed to land vertically on mars/moon unable to unload its meagrely payload stored at top of rocket lol check out thunderfoots video
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bundy 4eva! View Post
    Biking community , please join me

    Let us pray..

    Please God, don't let Starship explode tomorrow, this will likely dump Teslas share price and I could lose hundreds of thousands in capital

    Amen.
    So what's the going rate on imaginary shares?



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    So what's the going rate on imaginary shares?
    I trade on the derivatives market

    I buy call options contracts to own Tesla shares at a cheaper price in the future.

    This strategy only works if Tesla or Elon Musk achieve their annual targets, if they don't, my contracts to own Tesla shares expire worthless.

    I usually include put options, these are an insurance that protect me if Tesla fails, yes I own contracts that bet against Tesla

    The put options protected me when Tesla share price dumped earlier this year.

    I'm an advanced, 6 foot 3inch, handsome wealthy investor

    Did I mention I ride motorcycles?

    I can make your wives worship my greatness..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bundy 4eva! View Post
    I trade on the derivatives market

    I buy call options contracts to own Tesla shares at a cheaper price in the future.

    This strategy only works if Tesla or Elon Musk achieve their annual targets, if they don't, my contracts to own Tesla shares expire worthless.

    I usually include put options, these are an insurance that protect me if Tesla fails, yes I own contracts that bet against Tesla

    The put options protected me when Tesla share price dumped earlier this year.

    I'm an advanced, 6 foot 3inch, handsome wealthy investor

    Did I mention I ride motorcycles?

    I can make your wives worship my greatness..
    You can’t have a dollar each way life’s not that easy.
    In which years did Tesla meet its targets????
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    You canÂ’t have a dollar each way lifeÂ’s not that easy.
    In which years did Tesla meet its targets????
    When you trade in the derivative market, if you buy a call option contract for Tesla stock to cost $200 per share, I buy 100 shares at $100 per share each, the contract cost $1000

    If it doesn't reach $200 buy a set date, I'll lose my $1000

    If I buy 100 Tesla put option contract for Tesla shares to fall to $100 per share, I can buy those shares for $100 each , if it doesn't fall by a set date, I lose the $1000

    Either way, I'm likely to lose the $1000 on either the put or call contract, If the share price stays flat, I'll lose $1000 X 2... The only way I make profit is when I buy the Tesla stock at a cheaper price, it's why I don't follow mainstream media that hate on Tesla or watch anti Elon you tube clips, I follow the actual Tesla financials which get audited by US tax authorities every quarter.



    Tesla target is for 50% year on year growth ( key word on average), some years Tesla will have 80% growth some years will be 40% growth, on average Elon Musk says 50% growth target

    Tesla just had a record first quarter

    It's why I'm rich bitches ..yussss! USA! USA! USA!

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