Musk has Canadian citizenship as well as South African and US. There is currently a petition in Canada to revoke his citizenship. Currently it has near quarter of a million signatures.
An absolute Einstein level Genius
An absolute hustler Ponzi/pyramid schemer
Good intentions but poor conceptually
Seeks credit/wealth from others existing ideas
Klaus Schwab/Elite puppet distraction tool
A Jules Verne visionary ahead of his time
Geriatric hoon
Musk has Canadian citizenship as well as South African and US. There is currently a petition in Canada to revoke his citizenship. Currently it has near quarter of a million signatures.
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
Weekend cruiser
Last I saw it was 270k and growing.Currently it has near quarter of a million signatures.
I'd sign it
Hardcore Biker
The Majestic Metal Wizard
It would be interesting if the people doing this got sued by either Company...Originally Posted by Pursang
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Bevelhead Dinosaur
We have seen similar for years with US backpackers having Canadian flags on their packs
=mjc=
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Geriatric hoon
The deal Musk scored to sell $400 million worth of paperweights errr Cybertrucks to the US Military has fallen through. It seems the corruption was just too obvious.
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/13/g-s1-...armored-teslas
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
Geriatric hoon
Musk has gained a new conflict of interest. Ummm I mean Starlink has gained a new government contract believed to be worth multiple billions to modernise the Federal Aviation Administration IT system. There is one slight problem. There was already a contract with another company. It isn't as if this smacks of any impropriety. Musk will have checked to see there is no conflict of interest like Trump said he would. He has to get something back for the millions he gave Trump to get him elected. /s
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/25/b...act/index.html
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
The Majestic Metal Wizard
From your Article
And it was cancelled under the Trump administration.The Tesla contract started in the Biden administration "to explore interest from private companies to produce armored electric vehicles," a State Department spokesperson said on Thursday.
Tesla was the only company to express interest in the department's request at the time.
Please, in words of one saliva - exactly where is the Corruption.
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
The Majestic Metal Wizard
Again, from your Article:
Seems this, again, predates the Trump administration.“Alaska has long had issues with reliable weather information for the aviation community,” it said in the post. “The 2024 FAA reauthorization required the FAA to fix telecommunications connections to fix those needs.”
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Kruger-Dunning Parts n Service
BEIJING, Feb 28 (Reuters) - Autonomous driving-related over-the-air software upgrades will be subject to regulatory approvals, China's industry ministry said on Friday, part of new regulations aimed at preventing automakers using them to conceal defects or avoid liability.
Electric vehicle makers including Tesla TSLA.O and Xiaomi 1810.HK have used OTA upgrades to fix software bugs. Such upgrades are called product recalls under China's regulation, but it's often unclear if drivers might need, or would be eligible, to return vehicles to the automakers for refunds.
Those planning OTA upgrades to eliminate product defects and implement recalls should "immediately stop the manufacture and sales of defective automobile products," the regulation stipulates.
If changes to the main technical parameters are needed to fix the defects, automakers are required to obtain a license for the product change before resuming their production of the affected vehicle.
Automakers are banned from naming and marketing driving assistance systems with hints to consumers that they can be used as autonomous driving systems, according to the regulation.
They are also required to report to the industry ministry and the market regulator in case of driving assistance system failure or collisions and other accidents.
(Reporting by Beijing newsroom; Editing by Jan Harvey and Philippa Fletcher)
Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket - Eric Hoffer
Hardcore Biker
Take out the trash!
Weekend cruiser
You will have seen it, I have seen it, I bet even TDL has seen it......that meme that says, " if you think a billionaire is going to change a system that made them a billionaire then you are some kind of stupid"
I cant figure out TDL's position....is he a troll? is he a Russian troll? is he stupid? is he just a sufferer of oppositional defiance syndrome? or has he swallowed the bullshit believing pill? or does he really think chump is a good guy that the world needs? or is he in it for the shit stirring and stick poking?
He really is a funny guy.
Anyway I have never been a follower. I have always been a doubter, a questioner. I trust my gut instinct when forming opinions of people.
I must stop looking at Stuff, NZ Herald, CNN, BBC news outlets and follow what TDL reads.
Did anyone see the statement on Stuff about how Luxton still trusts president (there's a joke) trumpf.
The Majestic Metal Wizard
As a rule, I try not to critique memes as I find it a little... uncouth.
But - since I have been invoked - I will comment for a bit - that Meme is not talking about the system of a constitutional republic changing, they are talking about This
And I dunno how your history is, but every time the alternative was tried - everyone starved and it failed. And I like food.
Fundamentally - I am a Libertarian. I believe that almost all law should flow from the Natural rights of Man - the right to move, to speak, to bodily autonomy, to own the fruits of your labour.
Government, properly setup, is an institution to protect those rights and to act as a neutral referee when they are seemingly in conflict.
I am also very much a realist - when it comes to issues, there is sometimes a need for the pragmatic. For example - Building regulations - there is not perfect information or perfect understanding. I like to think of myself as somewhat smart and capable of understanding complex ideas and systems (at a high level at least) rather quickly - yet when it comes to the field of construction, I have not the time to learn the wisdom of hundreds of years of trial and error - and so accept that there should be some minimum standards: Dont do this or the house will fall down - and that these minimum are a net good to society... so long as they are properly implemented, understood and the cost-benefit analysis shows them to be so. Regulations, for the sake of Regulation, or to stop a fringe scenario that rarely happens, but adds excessive red-tape to stop is often not worth it.
I am also an avowed anti-Marxist. Simply put, the idea is lovely in theory - A Classless, Stateless, Moneyless society where everything is in abundance and no one has to work.... It completely breaks when it comes face-to-face with human nature and reality. I have seen the increasing march of this idea through various institutions - Ideas that once were fringe and lunatic, have been increasingly forced into the mainstream by Professors, Journalists and (as we have found out with the USAID funding) Kwangos.
Consider the following: DIE, Equity, LGBTQIA+, Critical Race Theory, Gender Theory, Critical Theory, 3rd and 4th wave Feminism, The Modern Green movement etc.
All of them have roots that when followed go back, usually via the Frankfurt school, to Antonio Gramscii and his theory of Hegemony which ultimately leads to Marx.
Now, to be fair to them - they all have elements of them that contain a kernal of truth - and, as the phrase goes, the best lies are mostly true. But they also all have the same ultimate goal - as per one of the links I included: "Dismantling the imperialist white supremacist capitalist patriarchy" - and ushering in the Communist Utopia...
I have read enough to spot the tell-tale signs when something is coming from that ideological perspective.
Despite speaking fluent Vodka, I am not a Russian Troll or otherwise.
Everyone said Trump wouldnt win a second term, I did.
As one member likes to opine - I think I know more than the NZ Government - except that one time where I correctly pointed out how dishonest the NZ Government Covid reporting stats were - was ridiculed by multiple people here.... until the Government changed the way they reported based on the very criticisms I raised
And whilst I am human and as prone to character flaws as everyone else - those that know me would probably never accuse me of being stupid.
There are a few that have thought so - and I will say that there is something to be said for taking a contrarian position. However, no - I do not have that. When I am being contrarian for the sake of it, you will know - because I usually freely admit that I am doing so - because in order to properly explore an idea, sometimes you need to look at the downsides and negative consequences.
Many on here would think so - and again, let me be fair to their position: We all swallow a degree of Bullshit.
However - the test as to whether it is bullshit or not is whether or not it is true. For example - I said ages ago - I think in a discussion around 2017 - that Twitter (at the time) was pushing censorship in only one political direction. I presented empirical evidence to this - based on their ToS, the Vidjia Gadd interview on JRE, multiple instances of them treating 'one of their own' with far greater leniency than the opposition.
This was critiqued and written off as conspiratorial.
Then Musk bought Twitter and released internal documentation that proved I was correct.
Now - That is one example, there are others (thinking Trump would win) but there are also times when I got it catastrophically wrong - I did not think Putin would invade Ukraine.
That I have the integrity to admit that should be a factor in your view of me.
I wouldnt say Trump is a Good Guy, I would say he is more a Necessary Evil. Now, I like the guy, I have a genuine chaotic side that I have to keep in check that would light a match and watch the world burn...
And some of the stuff he does speaks to that side of me. There are a plethora of groups who believe their shit doesn't stink and that only they, with their 3 year degree in worthless grievance study subject know how to usher in the communist utopia - and seeing them getting pissed off and 'owned' does give me great joy - partly for the chaotic side, but also partly because their ideas, when implemented, are genuinely horrific and end in unimaginable human suffering.
Case in point - remember the gleeful celebration about the people that died when the Oceangate Titan sub imploded. Do you think those same people wouldnt revel with glee as they murdered everyone who they believed had profited unfairly? Do you think those same people wouldn't rejoice at tearing apart everyone they see as being better than them because their detestable ideology is built upon jealousy?
However, that is only one side of things - when it comes to Trump as a politician - I do genuinely believe he wants the best for America. Now, whether or not his ideas work, we can debate the nuances of Policy at length and we have a thread for that - my view of Trump is, that he bases his decisions on gut feel.
And the simple fact is - most of the time, I trust his Gut. Life, for me, was better (even in NZ) when Trump was in office. We had 4 years of relative peace and prosperity.
In terms of what Trump is currently doing - There has been Rot at the heart of the US Federal Government for a long time. And I dare say that same rot exists in governments the world over. The old saying goes when the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem is a nail - when you are a lifelong bureaucrat, every problem is fixed by more regulation and bureaucracy.
Couple in the fact that the institutions that the people that work in those positions are drawn from have been poisoned by Marxist ideas via the University system. So you have an organization that whilst it might be run by the Left or the Right (as the elections go) - is functionally staffed by people of one political viewpoint - hence why we see government funding, via USAID for causes and institutions that have a left-wing lean to them and almost none that have a right-wing lean to them.
The same is true for NZ as it is for the UK and other place - and so the refrain: I am tired of paying my taxes, to pay people to tell me how I am evil for the original sin of being a straight white male.
To conclude - I genuinely like Trump, he has his flaws - but on the balance of things, I think he is doing great. I also think that many of the things he is doing have gotten to the critical point that they have because multiple Presidents of both flavours have kicked the can down the road.
Realistically since the fall of the Berlin Wall.
Occassionally- but as above, you will generally know when I am doing that...
Why, thank you...
Okay - jokes aside - look at the list of news outlets you have listed - all of them have a left bias. Ask yourself this: Why is that?
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Kiwibiker
Hahaha, I bet that earned you a wall of text.
I too had the same questions as you and over time have what I feel largely worked him out.
1. TDL has told us he likes to argue, and he does.
2. TDL is incapable of dropping a position, though he will eagerly tell you otherwise and mention a few "nothings" to back it up lol. Personally I see it as weakness, but that is just my personal opinion.
3. When you drill down, and it take days and days of rebuttals - even when there is no position left, he clings onto it like the last life ring on the titanic. Examples: Trumps constant lies boiled down to "words don't matter", supreme court justice thomas taking bribes boiled down to "the briber is so rich it cannot be considered a bribe" and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on it goes.
4. Connected with the above is both his main weapon and his ego crutch that allows him to cling to his position un opposed and is in effect also his sanity protection - and that is if course the wall of text. The aim if course is to overwhelm his opponent and allow him to walk away with his "position" intact and undefeated. No matter that people just do not have the time or inclination to wade through the inevitable pile of bs contained in said wall.
5. He is literally paid to post in KB, hence his time to post said walls. He has mentioned several times that his benevolent bosses who do not mind this behavior on their watch. It does tell me that he is likely very, very good at his job.
6. On occasion shit can get real for tdl and stuff that effects him personally, suddenly he sharpens up quick fast. The only way the Invercargill pool was kept open during the pool pooper days is because they had tdl refilling it with tears over the new gun laws as fast as the pooper bloke was able to poop in it
It is all just a game to him, so we either engage or block at the end of the day and be grateful that he is not in a position of power. Unlike musk. musk has a scary amount of power, and now days he cannot stop lying. He has so many conflicts of interest that in no way should he be head of doge, only the likes of tdl can "explain" otherwise.
The Majestic Metal Wizard
It did
True.
As is your want and right.
That is one view - here is another - when we get to the end of a discussion - what is left is perspective. I have listened to enough of Trump speeches to have a pretty good grasp on how he uses hyperbole. I mean - you can find endless memes of people of both stripes mimicking Trumps speech patterns. Its a great speech Pattern, in fact - it is possibly the greatest speech ever... in fact, I know a guy that.... etc.
What you call lies, I call his way of speaking. I understand what he means and what he does not mean - and that is good enough for me. What I see is people taking quotes out of context, removing a common understanding of Trumpian hyperbole (which is well documented at this point) - in order to claim that he is lying.
Same too with the Justice Thomas thing - Imagine someone paying for my dinner, who also happened to like Trump and you claimed that my opinion was being influenced by them. What to the average person is luxurious beyond belief is the equivalent of buying your mate a pint.
Where we get to is a difference in perspective.
Now this I feel is uncharitable. On some of the issues we discuss, they are complex. There are many facets to them. To ignore or not explore those elements is to do a disservice to the seriousness of the issue at hand. I could post pithy meme based replies, but I find them uninteresting and they do little to further any discussion. Clearly there is something of gravitas to the issues we both choose to engage on, otherwise we wouldnt bother.
So doing them the courtesy of really exploring takes time and text. It is not an attempt to overwhelm, it is an attempt to fully explore and rebut where necessary ideas.
I mean, I do type fast - but the last sentance - awwww shucks.
You mean, when a communist Cunt starts doing communist cuntery that affects me, I get annoyed - gee funny that. Almost like I would like to be left alone by the government... Something something Libertarian.6. On occasion shit can get real for tdl and stuff that effects him personally, suddenly he sharpens up quick fast. The only way the Invercargill pool was kept open during the pool pooper days is because they had tdl refilling it with tears over the new gun laws as fast as the pooper bloke was able to poop in it
I would say it is partly a game, but partly not.
Imagine a world were I was the absolute dictator for a moment - given what you know of me, both on here and off here - what would such a country look like.
Then ask yourself honestly if you think it would be that bad.
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