Luxon ?

[pete376403]

Imagine if someone said something equivalent about a Female Politician....

Such as any of the comments you have ever made about Jacinda.

[TheDemonLord]

Such as any of the comments you have ever made about Jacinda.

I'm fairly certain all the Insults I've hurled at Jacinda were based on her being an incompetent totalitarian Socialist.

However - let's assume for the moment it's true - those same people laughing at the Luxon jab would be aghast at what I've supposedly said at Jacinda.

Which is entirely my point.

[pritch]

All he had to do was revamp Muldoon think big and build some new mega hydro dams to future proof us and create jobs at same time.

Ah yes, "Think big."

Not far from here was a synthetic fuel plant which was built for a cost of 17 billion if I recall. And early 1970s dollars were much bigger than todays Pacific pesos.

Not long after the plant was built the price of oil dropped and the world's first synthetic fuel plant was immediately sold off . Now it's owned by a methanol company. The synthetic fuel operation comprised three parts: two plants that converted natural gas into methanol and a third plant that converted methanol to gasoline.

The methanol to gasoline plant, being surplus to requirements, was cut up and sold for scrap. The two methanol plants have been working ever since and their output exported making money for the Canadian owners.

What a colossal fuck up. It still pisses me off every time I drive past.

[R650R]

Not sure where you got 17 billion maybe meant 1.7?

Some interesting reading here https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...111/apv.232007

Says original estimate of 500 million ballooned to 2 billion early on. Bear in mind at the time NZ was importing 1.4 billion of petrol annually at time and it eventually made us 50% self sufficient which no doubt the world elite would not have liked.
NZ govt owned 75% and the builders Mobil owner 25%.

[R650R]

Luxon rules out Māori party that should be a poll boost.

God help us if we end up with a three way labour/greens/Māori coalition....

[Laava]

Ah yes, "Think big."

Not far from here was a synthetic fuel plant which was built for a cost of 17 billion if I recall. And early 1970s dollars were much bigger than todays Pacific pesos.

Not long after the plant was built the price of oil dropped and the world's first synthetic fuel plant was immediately sold off . Now it's owned by a methanol company. The synthetic fuel operation comprised three parts: two plants that converted natural gas into methanol and a third plant that converted methanol to gasoline.

The methanol to gasoline plant, being surplus to requirements, was cut up and sold for scrap. The two methanol plants have been working ever since and their output exported making money for the Canadian owners.

What a colossal fuck up. It still pisses me off every time I drive past.

Yep, we had the Marsden B power station. Before it could be commissioned the price of coal went up and it sat mothballed from new until it was eventually sold. Broken down and sent to India I think?

[Hairymcsweary]

Yep, we had the Marsden B power station. Before it could be commissioned the price of coal went up and it sat mothballed from new until it was eventually sold. Broken down and sent to India I think?

Marsden B was oil fired, I think it would have been the price of coal dropping. I worked at Marsden Power Station when I left school, Marsden A was only fired up in anger twice in the three years I worked there.

[pete376403]

Marsden B was oil fired, I think it would have been the price of coal dropping. I worked at Marsden Power Station when I left school, Marsden A was only fired up in anger twice in the three years I worked there.

Marsden B was an unused 250 MW oil-fired power station near the Marsden Point Oil Refinery at Marsden Point, Ruakaka, Northland, New Zealand. Due to rising oil prices, the plant was mothballed in 1978[1] without ever being commissioned. The Marsden site also includes the Marsden A power station, now a synchronous compensation facility owned and operated by Mercury Energy.

Various schemes were considered for utilising the plant, spanning a range of fuels and technologies. A 2004 proposal to refurbish it for coal-fired use drew environmental protests and created drawn-out legal challenges before this proposal was also eventually abandoned. The plant was dismantled and shipped to India in 2012.[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsden_B

[neels]

Luxon rules out Māori party that should be a poll boost.

God help us if we end up with a three way labour/greens/Māori coalition....

And David Seymour says he can't work with NZ First?

The polls would suggest it's looking like a 3 way coalition either way, as nobody has enough to form a government otherwise, which in reality is the normal outcome from a mmp election.

The 9 years of previous national led government were the 4 way national/act/united future/maori party confidence & supply quasi coalition, which was followed by the labour/green/nz first 3 way coalition, then labour absolute majority but still including the greens as insurance for the future.

It will be interesting to see what effect the recent defections have on the maori party and if they hold electorate seats, if not their party vote is usually not enough to get them in, and equally to see if NZ First have been forgiven for going with Labour and then immediately getting their snouts in the trough and achieving nothing.

[TheDemonLord]

It will be interesting to see what effect the recent defections have on the maori party and if they hold electorate seats, if not their party vote is usually not enough to get them in, and equally to see if NZ First have been forgiven for going with Labour and then immediately getting their snouts in the trough and achieving nothing.

I remember watching a Q and A with one of the NZ First politicians talking about why they went into power with labour - he talked a lot about various policies that he was passionate about that he got through - but the crowd basically excoriated him - by pointing out that he got in bed with the enemy.

He couldn't see that he had betrayed his electorate and so despite Winston trying to pull a fast one by getting on anti-Woke train, people still remember that it was him and his ego that gave us Stalinda.

[pete376403]

And I recall the election "promises" that were made by Winston prior to the election, that NZF would not go with National (this is leading up to the 1996 election) for all sorts of different reasons, however when it came to decision time, he reneged on his previous statements and went with National, as he said "for stability" (and a few baubles of office as he described them , such as Treasurer and deputy Prime Minister) - two faced weasel is fair description

[F5 Dave]

To be fair he was going to push for limiting Immigration numbers which had hit peaks of 70,000. Well wasn't he successful?

[R650R]

Election winning policy

https://i.stuff.co.nz/bay-of-plenty/...-traffic-signs

There’s a reason why airports around world use English for air traffic control even in non english countries. Time for common sense to prevail.

[pete376403]

Election winning policy

https://i.stuff.co.nz/bay-of-plenty/...-traffic-signs

There’s a reason why airports around world use English for air traffic control even in non english countries. Time for common sense to prevail.

Common sense or an appeal to the old, white rednecks? How about changing all the place names back to proper english names as well?

[pzkpfw]

“Signs need to be clear. We all speak English, and they should be in English. Place names are okay, but when it comes to important signs saying things like ‘Expressway’, they should be in English, as it’s going to be confusing if you add more words,” he [Simeon Brown] said.

That's dodgy, as it implies English won't be on the signs, but the example shown in the item has:
TE ARA PUAKI
EXPRESSWAY

Perhaps crowded and messy (yes, he did go on to use the word "add", but that wasn't the selected headline), and may confuse some while they get used to it, but the English is there for those who prefer.

What Simeon Brown really meant was "... they should [only] be in English ...".

Screw him, and Nationals' policy on this.