Mayor Wayne Brown

[TheDemonLord]

TDL, I believe you have some expertise in database manipulation, so that should make it relatively easy for you to get the appropriate numbers from a reputable source, eg NZ Govt Stats, and put together a chart showing us all how much better off we are as a result of the electricity reforms

Are you saying the source that you posted isn't reputable? Because that's the majority of what I've been quoting, along with a few bits and pieces from Wikipedia.

Again, for those that miss it, I've said repeatedly that Energy generation represents a natural monopoly and without the ability to switch providers (which includes everything from Energy Generation, substations, cabling and the last mile) - you can't really have 'true' competition.

The point I'm making is that there are 3 factors that show a far greater impact on the price than 'evil corporate shareholders'

They are:

1: since about the 80s, the number of electronic devices in the average home has increased dramatically - I don't have the NZ stats for this, but there are stats from the US, UK etc. from this time period if you really doubt it - but all you have to do is do a thought experiment - my Grandparents had a TV, a Radio, Lights, a Fridge and that's it. They had a Gas stove/oven and a coal fire.

Today, I've got a TV, I've got multiple laptops, Phones, Tablets, a Gaming PC, Vacuum, Power tools, Fridge, separate freezer (going up the ruahines for my first hunt in April!) etc. etc.

I will add this though, since about the late 2010s, the average has started to level off a little - as devices get more efficient.

2: Electricity generation has moved from almost exclusively hyrdo (which doesn't have a fuel cost) in the 70s, to a combination of Hydro and Gas being the most prominent and a switch to (starting in the 2000s) renewables.

When we see big Hyrdo plants come online (such as the Clutha damn - 400+ MW) in 1993, we see a dip in the consumer price of Electricity. Simple economics - we've increased the Supply (shifted the supply curve to the right), therefore we have decreased the price if the demand curve remains the same.

Since the Clutha Damn, we've not built any Hydro power stations of any great significance (over 10 MW)

3: Immigration - Population increases at a rate greater than natural Births, that's more people who will want Electricity = greater demand. I'm firmly in this category, I came here - I plugged in all my devices etc. More load on the system that wasn't there the day before I landed.

Add in a pinch of 'What has greater levels of bureaucracy - the Government or a private company?' - and that is all I'm saying.

I am not advocating for Privatization or Nationalization in this instance.

[F5 Dave]

I can't read that. So I'll paraphrase for the othereswho have him on ignore, dont bother;

Waa waa, I'm an ineffectual male. I'd like you to think I'm clever Because that would make up for my small winky. If I lost some weight I'd be able to see it without a mirror.

[TheDemonLord]

I can't read that. So I'll paraphrase for the othereswho have him on ignore, dont bother;

Waa waa, I'm an ineffectual male. I'd like you to think I'm clever Because that would make up for my small winky. If I lost some weight I'd be able to see it without a mirror.

Now, putting aside the fact that this is the classic Ad-Hominem - this gives me an opportunity to gloat - see I have been loosing weight, I recently dropped under 100 kilos for the first time in a decade.

My recent PB was a 9.5 km run in an hour.

So thanks for the insult, it's both a chance to prove you wrong and to share progress.

[onearmedbandit]

Now, putting aside the fact that this is the classic Ad-Hominem - this gives me an opportunity to gloat - see I have been loosing weight, I recently dropped under 100 kilos for the first time in a decade.

My recent PB was a 9.5 km run in an hour.

So thanks for the insult, it's both a chance to prove you wrong and to share progress.

Great work!!

[caseye]

Yep, I second that commend, anyone who can and does deserves a little bit of congratulatory peaise, you keep at it DML.

[1/32 man]

........ drifting back to Code Brown...he apologised.

[pete376403]

........ drifting back to Code Brown...he apologised.

Apologies are cheap. and achieve nothing.

[1/32 man]

Agree, pete376403

A mate often quotes, 'it is easier to apologise than ask permission" although that doesn't really apply here.

Words are cheap for some and even cheaper for politicians.

[FJRider]

Now, putting aside the fact that this is the classic Ad-Hominem - this gives me an opportunity to gloat - see I have been loosing weight, I recently dropped under 100 kilos for the first time in a decade.

My recent PB was a 9.5 km run in an hour.

So thanks for the insult, it's both a chance to prove you wrong and to share progress.

Remember one thing ... as you get fitter ... your fat gets replaced by muscle. Muscle weighs almost as much as fat.

Losing weight depends just as much (IF NOT MORE) on your diet ... than exercise alone. Otherwise you'll JUST end up a fit fatty.

[BMWST?]

Yep. I was just about to post “what has he done that’s bad?” I saw a news article saying something along the lined of only he would be talking about council response etc but that’s no different to “ the single source of truth”.
The platform did a good piece on this, the media are just trying to find a target. But this flooding mess is just decades of under investment couple with recent mega intensification of dense housing.
I think the media doesn’t like him as he just talks normal, he doesn’t give them the crafted political sound bites they love.

plus a shed load of rain which cannot be pinned on said Mr Brown.

[TheDemonLord]

Remember one thing ... as you get fitter ... your fat gets replaced by muscle. Muscle weighs almost as much as fat.

Losing weight depends just as much (IF NOT MORE) on your diet ... than exercise alone. Otherwise you'll JUST end up a fit fatty.

Hence why I've been using a Calorie tracker app

[R650R]

That weedy little interviewer tried to do hit job on Brown in latest one q&a inteerview.
Brown did pretty well given the hostile climate whatever his other failings are.
In associated news a solo mother wants Winz to act as household insurance because they gave her a new house in a flood prone area, unbelievable....

[frogfeaturesFZR]

That weedy little interviewer tried to do hit job on Brown in latest one q&a inteerview.
Brown did pretty well given the hostile climate whatever his other failings are.
In associated news a solo mother wants Winz to act as household insurance because they gave her a new house in a flood prone area, unbelievable....

WINZ didn’t give her a house, that’s Kianga Ora
They will have funded her into it though.
So, if she’s got a beef, it’s with KO.
Anyway, some people want support from the womb to the tomb, personal responsibility appears to have died.

[husaberg]

I am confused by the premise of the thread, The guy by all counts is a abhorrent tool.
What better representation of Auckland could you ever ask for.

[Grumph]

One of those very rare times when a city has got the mayor it deserves.

Reminds me of the time of the ChCh quakes. One mayor of the three areas affected by the quakes was visible and accessible. The other two - Selwyn and Waimakariri - might as well have been overseas. Brown's not setting a precedent - he's following the examples of two mayors found wanting in a crisis.