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    My understanding is that the rider can switch engine maps on the fly. Yes, post race or post a practise session others can look at Peco's settings - but not in real time during a race. Or if they can, it's not much use the pit signalling "Peco's using map 3" after he's passed.

    If he's switching to a more agressive map to gain and pass - then switching back - there's not a lot anyone saving tyres can do about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    My understanding is that the rider can switch engine maps on the fly. Yes, post race or post a practise session others can look at Peco's settings - but not in real time during a race. Or if they can, it's not much use the pit signalling "Peco's using map 3" after he's passed.

    If he's switching to a more aggressivee map to gain and pass - then switching back - there's not a lot anyone saving tyres can do about it.
    I was actually wondering if sharing the final data off the race bike in a race is the same as how to input the settings to get that data.
    In my small mind they'd be two different things would they not, if you get my drift.

    So would the data readout contain enough information for any engineer walk over to MM's bike and input exactly what was put into Pecco's bike.
    Or would the final data only tell where he was getting extra traction on track and you would need Peccos engineer to share his skill in how he got it???

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    I dont think the settings work from Pecco to MM. But they should - the commentators said - cut and paste from Pecco to Martin/Bastinini.

    Grumph might be right though, could it be that Pecco is being smarter about how how he uses his mappings. I just think that Ducati dont want Martin to leave with the #1, so they have gone full on with Pecco's bike - and notice MM's bike was a little more competitive as well.

    Interestingly MM said that even with a perfect performance and perfect feeling he doesnt think he can keep up with Pecco and Martin.

    Enea said that he struggled to get his ride height device to engage at the start line and that if you dont get it engaged you are 4 tenths slower.. I cant wait till those things are gone.
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    I see it mentioned elsewhere that the engines have been sealed since the start of the season.
    So if Ducati were trying to favour Peco, they'd have needed a good clairvoyant as no-one could reasonably have forseen the chaotic rider moves this season.
    It's also been pointed out that top speeds are the same - it's off corners where Peco gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    I see it mentioned elsewhere that the engines have been sealed since the start of the season.
    So if Ducati were trying to favour Peco, they'd have needed a good clairvoyant as no-one could reasonably have forseen the chaotic rider moves this season.
    It's also been pointed out that top speeds are the same - it's off corners where Peco gains.
    Switch would point towards his bike getting better rear wheel traction compared to the others.
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    MM: "I braked and engaged well the front device - But then I braked again (to try and heat the front tyre and it disengaged (the device). Then I didnt have enough speed to engage it (on the grid).
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    Quote Originally Posted by iYRe View Post
    I dont think the settings work from Pecco to MM. But they should - the commentators said - cut and paste from Pecco to Martin/Bastinini.

    . . . .
    Those last 3 are GP24s. MM of course on a 23 which will have to be set up subtly different to best suit its geometry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Yeah guys, I agree. Peccos bike does seem to have more power - at times.
    In the sprint race he was jumping out most corners better when compared to martin.
    When pecco passed martin in the long race, it looked for all the World like martin had stopped trackside to get a cappuccino!
    It made we wonder if sneaky Gigi has set up some sort of F1 style push to pass giving peco extra revs or something? Unlike the sprint race, in the main race once peco was past, he did not seem to jump out the corners away from martin like he was consistently doing in the sprint race, rather peco just eased away over time. Hmmmmmm
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    That would have to be hidden very carefully by someone very attuned to the rules and with a pathological desire to be the winning team.
    It did look a touch easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Those last 3 are GP24s. MM of course on a 23 which will have to be set up subtly different to best suit its geometry.

    yeah therein lies the problem. Martin should have been ok though, he could have used them.
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    Here you go lads times for this weekend

    Personally, had a great day racing last Sunday at NZCMRR Hampton got my first 3rd place finish with a 6th and 7th thrown in.
    And that was in the No2 bike a totally stock 55,000k FZR with a still working ex-up.
    My wet bike set up for the wet, soft and smooth, I doubt its 120hp. Only upgrade is Brembo's.
    Nice sunny day for a change even got some good Vid on my race page.
    No where near Paul Pav's times or the top times for pre89 around there but good enough for a pensioner

    Enough of that Times under. Much the same as last GP.

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    its about time we had a nail-biter race... i see we have aragon and its fairly tight with mostly left corners. if mm gets away without miss-adventure it could be a good 3 way skirmish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jato View Post
    its about time we had a nail-biter race... i see we have aragon and its fairly tight with mostly left corners. if mm gets away without miss-adventure it could be a good 3 way skirmish.
    Here's hoping... I think he has had some factory upgrades too.. improved ride height device etc
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    Yeah but they can only drop it so far, 24 is redesigned to move parts around apparently. Qatar they had it rubbing so bad it smoked when MM hit bumps.

    Be good when those things are gone and traction is the juggling compromise.
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    They'll still have traction control in the electronics suite. The smaller engines won't have as much torque either so it may get a tad processional.

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    Crafar was saying that its possible it might be wet this weekend and so should it turn into a flag to flag, and if he gets off the mark, he might have a chance to win
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