MotoGP 2024

[iYRe]

Enea was even worse the factory team seems lost?????????????

blame the tyres, Pecco did :P

[onearmedbandit]

Another master class performance. It will be interesting to see what comes of the Bagnia/A Marquez incident.

[mulletman]

Pecco was going to take Alex in the next lap or so and should have waited

[F5 Dave]

Hw should have waited I agree. I think AM was struggling with grip, ran a little wide, saved the situation as best he could and jumped under the right side of the bike, but during this Peco had tried to swoop past.
In his mind it was clean, but the consequence was Alex couldn't just dissappear having held his position and then a Red bike blocked his exit at what looks like a slow speed on TV but would be terrifying for one of us if it unfolded ahead of us.

Midfield in the sprint was actually good to watch. Glad the focused on it.

Was actually really happy for MM to win after his hardship. Never would have thought that 5 years ago.

[BMWST?]

apparently the data showed that MM was able to carry 4 to 5 degrees more lean angle than any of the Ducatis.
Regardig the AM PB crash I think its mostly the fault of Bagnaia. What did he expect AM to do just let him past?.He was complaining that AM had the throttle open!
They compared it to the PA/JM incident which was completely different.
I am really glad for MM .I dont think anyone knows what he has been through.

[Grumph]

apparently the data showed that MM was able to carry 4 to 5 degrees more lean angle than any of the Ducatis.

Given that it is known that the tyre quality is variable - as shown by those with traction problems who don't usually have them - it should follow that there will be an occasional very good tyre.
Identifying them should be a priority.

[iYRe]

According to some sources, both AM and PB should have known better - AM should have known PB would have tried to go under, and PB should have known that AM would come back in. Just a racing incident and I think it just shows that PB is not quite sure when he should be taking those chances... That's not the first time.

[onearmedbandit]

Given that it is known that the tyre quality is variable - as shown by those with traction problems who don't usually have them - it should follow that there will be an occasional very good tyre.
Identifying them should be a priority.

He must've had a lucky batch of tyres all weekend long lol

[iYRe]

He must've had a lucky batch of tyres all weekend long lol

Its a low grip track.. and everyone was complaining about it. The KTM's couldnt lean at all. MM doesnt care if he has grip or not apparently - he's 5 secs faster than bikes that were 2 secs faster on other tracks, and he even said he had more if he needed it..

Lets see how the next race pans out.. the season is getting exiting. There is no guarantee Martin or Bagnaia are going to win anything

[merv]

From what I saw in the PB AM incident PB just tried to swoop around in front of AM's bike, AM had nowhere to go. The way the bikes then locked together was interesting. I heard someone mention that they thought the rear aero on PB's Duc, as he was leaning over, caught AM. So did it catch on his front aero which was up high due to him leaning to the right and is that why his bike was stood up and he just couldn't stay back?

The swooping across in front of AM to me was very reminiscent of the incident where Simoncelli did the same to Pedrosa many years ago and wiped him out. That time there was no aero to lock together so Simoncelli just carried on up the track.

[onearmedbandit]

Its a low grip track.. and everyone was complaining about it. The KTM's couldnt lean at all. MM doesnt care if he has grip or not apparently - he's 5 secs faster than bikes that were 2 secs faster on other tracks, and he even said he had more if he needed it..

Lets see how the next race pans out.. the season is getting exiting. There is no guarantee Martin or Bagnaia are going to win anything

Yeah I was talking (or typing?) tongue-in-cheek, most followers of the sport know he's one of the kings of low grip conditions.

[iYRe]

Yeah I was talking (or typing?) tongue-in-cheek, most followers of the sport know he's one of the kings of low grip conditions.

I figured you were, was just adding some intel I gleaned from some short english guy on the net who's name escapes me :P

[Reckless]

AM Pecco Accident

I watch another couple of Pecco crashes in the past on the net where he takes the line to early.

I think that is what happened here. He reckons when he is 1/2 way passed the other rider should back off.
At all times we should give "racing room". We rely on it as racers.
AM can't button off and throw all the weight on the front especially in those conditions.
Pecco is saying AM kept throttle on and therefore it was deliberate I don't think this makes it deliberate.

I reckon if Pecco gave a little more racing room he would have been off and on his way.

[Grumph]

AM Pecco Accident

I watch another couple of Pecco crashes in the past on the net where he takes the line to early.

I think that is what happened here. He reckons when he is 1/2 way passed the other rider should back off.
At all times we should give "racing room". We rely on it as racers.
AM can't button off and throw all the weight on the front especially in those conditions.
Pecco is saying AM kept throttle on and therefore it was deliberate I don't think this makes it deliberate.

I reckon if Pecco gave a little more racing room he would have been off and on his way.

It's pretty simple. the onus is on the overtaking rider to ensure they pass safely.

Never seen or heard anything about how far past you are to have right of way.

This is not car racing and none of their rules or conventions apply.

[F5 Dave]

Michelin apparently work very hard to keep tyres consistent apparently, it is all down to a science as much as possible.
But we have seen the odd howler.

The track was recently resurfaced in some areas. Ideally you'd do that 10 months before a major event to round sharpest of edges off (that destroy tyres) and lay some rubber in.

JM got there and Acosta and Binder seems be OK with low grip. So did Bags but it took him all weekend. I bet he's pissed as he was limiting damage but took IMO too great a risk when he didn't need to.

Still. Give us warriors something to talk about.