Inter island ferry

[Berries]

Seems it’s the wharves that are the biggest problem?

I was working on the iReX project for a while, kaching.

At some point with nationally important infrastructure the government of the day has to stump up with the cash to bring things up to date and to add a degree of future proofing. The time is very much now for the floundering ferries and wonky wharves.

Are ferries even the answer? Given the weather and notoriously rough Cook Strait, the proven risk to multiple lives if another one rolls over, the lack of seagoing tugs in the area, wake damage to the Marlbrough Sounds, the number of dead people trying to drive through the night to catch a ferry, the difficulty in improving the docks in Wellington due to the constrained space, saving the whales, convoys of campervans and the horror that is Picton should we look at something else?

Build a bridge and get over it.

I'm sure the Chinese would fund it.

[SaferRides]

I was working on the iReX project for a while, kaching.

At some point with nationally important infrastructure the government of the day has to stump up with the cash to bring things up to date and to add a degree of future proofing. The time is very much now for the floundering ferries and wonky wharves.

Are ferries even the answer? Given the weather and notoriously rough Cook Strait, the proven risk to multiple lives if another one rolls over, the lack of seagoing tugs in the area, wake damage to the Marlbrough Sounds, the number of dead people trying to drive through the night to catch a ferry, the difficulty in improving the docks in Wellington due to the constrained space, saving the whales, convoys of campervans and the horror that is Picton should we look at something else?

Build a bridge and get over it.

I'm sure the Chinese would fund it.

Slightly different weather conditions and very fast tidal flows in Cook Strait are a couple of issues that come to mind.

I'm not sure that the mega ferries were the best solution, but they could have been here in 2026. No one seems to have a clue what to do instead.

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[Berries]

Slightly different weather conditions and very fast tidal flows in Cook Strait are a couple of issues that come to mind.

I am sure there are plenty of other issues that would need to be dealt with but I don't see them as immediately insurmountable.

[pete376403]

I am sure there are plenty of other issues that would need to be dealt with but I don't see them as immediately insurmountable.

South Island is (very slowly) moving northward. If National can put things off long enough, eventually the two islands will connect and then they will be able to use their favoured option, a road between the two.

[Laava]

South Island is (very slowly) moving northward. If National can put things off long enough, eventually the two islands will connect and then they will be able to use their favoured option, a road between the two.

Finally, some common sense!

[sugilite:Me]

Would that be a Toll Road?

[F5 Dave]

Well I don't want to spend any of my tax cut into it.
And we don't need water delivered to everyone's door's, at least if I'm OK.

[Laava]

Well I don't want to spend any of my tax cut into it.
And we don't need water delivered to everyone's door's, at least if I'm OK.

You dont have to have or use the water. You just have to pay for it. FNDC have already done that.

[jim.cox]

And we don't need water delivered to everyone's door's

Its delivered free of charge to my roof

[JimO]

I suspect that national would not be so keen to neglect the cook strait power cable as they are lacking in foresight re the ferries.
the clock is ticking, the new ferries Nicky cancelled were set to arrive in 2 years time.
Every day after 2026 that we're without new ferries is a day that we legitimately can blame every single ferry problem directly on Nicola Willis. She is in a no win situation, As I am sure she can't now be seen to uturn. Any ferry will be dearer than it was when the prices were first negotiated, But if you can't rely on the steering and propulsion they cant sail. How long is it before she kills some people. I am sure Luxton will put a price on people's safety much like Boeing or Telsa or Ford before them did.

you still butthurt that ardern ran away and labour got the arse

going by all labours previous outstanding achievements those ferries would never be delivered or if they did they would have nowhere to tie up to, perhaps they could have parked in the backyard of the 100000 kiwibuild houses

[F5 Dave]

Its delivered free of charge to my roof

Sorry that was an ommission. Locating IP address. We'll send a bill out, back dated of course.

[husaberg]

you still butthurt that ardern ran away and labour got the arse

going by all labours previous outstanding achievements those ferries would never be delivered or if they did they would have nowhere to tie up to, perhaps they could have parked in the backyard of the 100000 kiwibuild houses

AlI I hear from you is but but but hunter Biden, how about you reply to my points .... that way you would not need to resort to personal attacks as a diversion.
if there is a storm and the steering break or the propulsion, what going to stop another wahine disaster.
The replacements boats were cancelled So what is the plan not to kill people with unsafe and unreliable ferries?

[pritch]

AlI
The replacements boats were cancelled So what is the plan not to kill people with unsafe and unreliable ferries?

It seems the government is thinking of privatising the ferries. The new company will probably start by buying ships that have already reached their use by date elsewhere. Depressing really.

[F5 Dave]

Destabilising NZ economy and resilience especially in civil emergency.

But it won't be their fault. Brilliant.

[pete376403]

going by all labours previous outstanding achievements those ferries would never be delivered or if they did they would have nowhere to tie up to, perhaps they could have parked in the backyard of the 100000 kiwibuild houses

Hyundai would have delivered no question about it On time, on budget. However they and other overseas construction industries will be more careful from accepting big ticket jobs when a national government can cancel on a whim.