Inter island ferry

**SaferRides** · 29th October 2024, 21:46

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

Can't we just nudge the two islands closer together? Bit like Tap car parking when bumpers we're invented?

Be quite nice to have Takaka hill on daytrip loop.

I must get the R1 back to the South Island this summer...

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**Berries** · 30th October 2024, 07:47

Originally Posted by BMWST?

i think all that water is very shallow and slow flowing compared to cook strait.The video didnt present many facts about the structure(s)

Cook Strait is without doubt a knarly piece of water to try and have a fixed structure on, over or under but you build it once and be done with it. No sinkings, no mass drownings, no queuing, no booking ahead, no timetable changes, no new terminals, no new boats, no strapping down your bike, no dead dolphins or complaints about wash and erosion. No rushing to Picton and killing all your family in a crash. No vomit over the sides or really bad sausage rolls. I'm not seeing any negatives.

$50 toll each way, be coining it.

**Grumph** · 30th October 2024, 07:54

Originally Posted by Berries

Cook Strait is without doubt a knarly piece of water to try and have a fixed structure on, over or under but you build it once and be done with it. No sinkings, no mass drownings, no queuing, no booking ahead, no timetable changes, no new terminals, no new boats, no strapping down your bike, no dead dolphins or complaints about wash and erosion. No rushing to Picton and killing all your family in a crash. No vomit over the sides or really bad sausage rolls. I'm not seeing any negatives.

$50 toll each way, be coining it.

Having lived through a 7.2 and multiple aftershocks you couldn't pay me enough to get me into a Cook straight tunnel.

Any bridge structure - floating or fixed - has weather to contend with plus there must be through access for shipping.

Shipping remains the only realistic option. In my lifetime anyway.

**jellywrestler** · 30th October 2024, 08:51

Originally Posted by Berries

. No rushing to Picton and killing all your family in a crash..

and you believed the media and cops??? that crash happened about five kms from picton, around 3.5 hours before their ferry,

**jellywrestler** · 30th October 2024, 08:53

Originally Posted by Berries

no dead dolphins.

dolphins aren't real, those are just gay sharks

**Berries** · 30th October 2024, 11:11

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

and you believed the media and cops??? that crash happened about five kms from picton, around 3.5 hours before their ferry,

Not sure which crash you are referring to but the one I had to produce a report for had people failing to make it to Picton at stupid o'clock and falling asleep. May not have been speeding but they were sure desperate to get the boat.

Anyway, sounds like my idea is a non-starter. I will stick with my plans for a bridge over the oyster beds in Foveaux Strait instead.

**Laava** · 30th October 2024, 11:58

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

and you believed the media and cops??? that crash happened about five kms from picton, around 3.5 hours before their ferry,

That stretch of road from Picton to Blenheim has got to be magnet for all the cuntiest drivers in NZ! Seen some appalling behaviour there! Last time it was a homo in a brand new ford raptor. He was polishing it on the ferry waiting to disembark and then he overtook everyone he could like an absolute loony. Must have thought it was the Nurburgring.

**pete376403** · 30th October 2024, 12:19

Originally Posted by Berries

Cook Strait is without doubt a knarly piece of water to try and have a fixed structure on, over or under but you build it once and be done with it. No sinkings, no mass drownings, no queuing, no booking ahead, no timetable changes, no new terminals, no new boats, no strapping down your bike, no dead dolphins or complaints about wash and erosion. No rushing to Picton and killing all your family in a crash. No vomit over the sides or really bad sausage rolls. I'm not seeing any negatives.

$50 toll each way, be coining it.

$50? The squilloins that it would cost to build would require a toll in the many hundreds. The Dover-Calais tunnel cost (equivalent to) about $NZ29 billion nearly 30 years ago. Even with patronage of an average of 60,000 passengers pass through the tunnel each day, along with 4,600 trucks, 140 coaches and 7,300 cars, the cheapest toll is 69 pounds per car. Eurotunnel has been given a concession of 65 years to rpay loans and pay a dividend. Can't see Willis letting that go by any time soon.

**jellywrestler** · 30th October 2024, 16:00

Originally Posted by Laava

That stretch of road from Picton to Blenheim has got to be magnet for all the cuntiest drivers in NZ! Seen some appalling behaviour there! Last time it was a homo in a brand new ford raptor. He was polishing it on the ferry waiting to disembark and then he overtook everyone he could like an absolute loony. Must have thought it was the Nurburgring.

maybe, but not when that crash happened, about 7.30 on a sunday morning, there would have been nobody around, they say it's a dangerous peice of road, however the driver had just negotiated the weld pass, which of the two is worse?

**jellywrestler** · 30th October 2024, 16:03

Originally Posted by Berries

Not sure which crash you are referring to but the one I had to produce a report for had people failing to make it to Picton at stupid o'clock and falling asleep. May not have been speeding but they were sure desperate to get the boat.

Anyway, sounds like my idea is a non-starter. I will stick with my plans for a bridge over the oyster beds in Foveaux Strait instead.

there was a fan load about a year ago, terrible carnage, heading home from a funeral around dunedin. The most publicly known one in recent times
fact is it was around 7.30 am for an 11am ferry, what has the ferry got to do with it? these people had several hours up their sleeve

**Grumph** · 30th October 2024, 16:29

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

there was a fan load about a year ago, terrible carnage, heading home from a funeral around dunedin. The most publicly known one in recent times
fact is it was around 7.30 am for an 11am ferry, what has the ferry got to do with it? these people had several hours up their sleeve

Gotta be first in the queue.

A couple of times I've come off the boat in the evening and it's been dark as I've come south.

I have been passed -in the dark - at very high speed by people who obviously know the road well.
I've been told they're often ferry crew now on days off going home.

Rather surprised at the lack of reported crew road accidents after seeing that.

**SaferRides** · 30th October 2024, 20:47

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

there was a fan load about a year ago, terrible carnage, heading home from a funeral around dunedin. The most publicly known one in recent times
fact is it was around 7.30 am for an 11am ferry, what has the ferry got to do with it? these people had several hours up their sleeve

That one was very sad, many people just don't understand the dangers of fatigue. I helped my son drive a car from Christchurch to Auckland in a day about 10 years ago. We both agreed to never do anything like that again.

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**R650R** · 21st March 2025, 13:39

Looks like private enterprise just snapped up a deal on a Toyota Corolla ;p

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/36062...fleet-new-ship

**Piper** · 20th April 2025, 22:37

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

they seem to spend billions at a time upgrading state highway one so why not a few billon on some decent boats and wharves to match?. Everything costs billions, just put in on the tab, it wont get any cheaper.

.They should consider putting in a tunnel.