MotoGP 2025

[sugilite:Me]

No prizes for guessing his pick for world champion!

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Bagnaia gets abducted by and dispatched by an alien?

[Reckless]

Bagnaia gets abducted by and dispatched by an alien?

Probably correct Much to Rossi's dismay LMAO
But Bagnia showed a lot of metal last season on track. He is a sportsman so I wish him well.

[F5 Dave]

I wish him all the best - but can see two potential problems off the bat.

Size. He's not a small unit and hasn't finished growing. Moto3 rides have been lost due to being too tall or 5kg too heavy.

Temperament. He seems a nice guy. In Moto3 you need to be a ruthless arrogant bastard who will ride over anyone to win.

Millions spent!
Ahh, that's where I went wrong! I only spent tens. Of dollars. If I could go back in time.

[iYRe]

Testing video from Barcelona for interests sakes:

[Grumph]

It looks like the KTM problems are starting to force change. The FIM is proposing a single bike 500cc/80hp Moto3.

ATM they're looking for someone to supply the complete bike - but Yamaha for one is only interested in engine supply.

It may well finish up like Moto2 with a single engine supplier.

I was interested to see that the current prototype class Moto3 bikes actually cost more than Moto2.

[jim.cox]

The FIM is proposing a single bike 500cc/80hp Moto3.

That sounds like the old F3 rules.
No thanks, I want something more like multi-cylinder bikes I can buy in the shops - which sounds like WSB

[BMWST?]

i appreciate the racing in moto 2 and moto3 but i cant get enthused in it .I think its becaue there is no "bike" .No brand to identify with. I rckon they need to go back to having different makes . Make moto 3 pretty basic but let moto 2 have some motogp like technology so there can be some learning of moto gp

[Grumph]

That sounds like the old F3 rules.
No thanks, I want something more like multi-cylinder bikes I can buy in the shops - which sounds like WSB

That's single bike - not single cylinder. Pretty sure it would be a high revving twin or triple.

Moto3 currently does have "brands". Honda and KTM variants.

Moto2 with a spec engine and chassis from small suppliers - except again KTM - is undoubtedly cheaper.
I think the last thing any of us wants to see is MotoGP aero and complex electronics spread into the lower classes

I'd far rather see MotoGP bikes simplified. Less aero, no holeshot devices. Bigger rider's balls.

[jim.cox]

I'd far rather see MotoGP bikes simplified. Less aero, no holeshot devices. Bigger rider's balls.

Whereas I see MotoGP about going as fast as you absolutely possibly can - and while keeping the rulebook as simple as possible.

To me, what you are describing is what WSB should be.

[F5 Dave]

You then run into the problem that the bikes are too fast for some tracks. Spec traction control means aero needed to stop wheelie. Aero however drags bikes following dangerous like a game of skittles. Makes passing difficult.

I'd like exciting racing. It's a hard compromise.

[jim.cox]

You then run into the problem that the bikes are too fast for some tracks.

That's what I mean about going as fast as you possibly can

I'd like exciting racing.

Yeah! Me too x10 - you only have to look at F1 to see what a shitshow it could be

[SaferRides]

That's single bike - not single cylinder. Pretty sure it would be a high revving twin or triple.

Moto3 currently does have "brands". Honda and KTM variants.

Moto2 with a spec engine and chassis from small suppliers - except again KTM - is undoubtedly cheaper.
I think the last thing any of us wants to see is MotoGP aero and complex electronics spread into the lower classes
.

Multi-cylinder please for Moto3. A 4-stroke single just does not sound right.

Moto2 already has a spec engine (Triumph), and you need a Kalex chassis to win. There is limited electronics, traction control and engine mapping? They were louder than the MotoGP bikes at Phillip Island, possibly because they can use more throttle at that track.



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[F5 Dave]

That's what I mean about going as fast as you possibly can. . .

Yeah but there's not enough run off at some tracks as you pass 300 or whatever. Every 10km faster means you travel that much further and hit barriers with that much more speed and inevitability get that much more dead if allowed to continue. Hence 850 rule, but it's not the best way to attack the real world problem .

Tracks like Philip Island which e everyone loves is close to not viable.

[BMWST?]

Yeah but there's not enough run off at some tracks as you pass 300 or whatever. Every 10km faster means you travel that much further and hit barriers with that much more speed and inevitability get that much more dead if allowed to continue. Hence 850 rule, but it's not the best way to attack the real world problem .

Tracks like Philip Island which e everyone loves is close to not viable.

not sure the 850s will be significantly slower.

[Grumph]

Yeah but there's not enough run off at some tracks as you pass 300 or whatever. Every 10km faster means you travel that much further and hit barriers with that much more speed and inevitability get that much more dead if allowed to continue. Hence 850 rule, but it's not the best way to attack the real world problem .

Tracks like Philip Island which e everyone loves is close to not viable.

Not only MotoGP and the big bikes in trouble. Winton has had to scrub the bikes from it's annual car/bike Historic and Classic meeting.
The insurance co is insisting on changes for the bikes - which may not be acceptable for the cars.

So guess who loses out.