MotoGP 2025

[sugilite:Me]

Alex fastest on Friday, then Peco, Pedro and Bez. Nicolo Bulega produced 17th fastest time only just over 1 second off the pace. Impressive when you think about what he has to learn with all the new buttons on the bars, ride height gadget to control, Michelin tyres to work out and a shit ton more power and different electronics. Mind boggling.
I remember when a fellow racer gave me a spin on his zxr750 superbike at Ruapuna with a reversegear shift lever and with just that change to deal with I was more than a second slower a lap.
Are these modern racers even human? Dna tests required!

[sugilite:Me]

Holy crap, just saw this article on crash. BOTH young Moto 3 riders involved in the warm up lap of the Moto 3 race the other week suffered cardiac arrest. WTF!

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/10...rash-reporting

[BMWST?]

Alex fastest on Friday, then Peco, Pedro and Bez. Nicolo Bulega produced 17th fastest time only just over 1 second off the pace. Impressive when you think about what he has to learn with all the new buttons on the bars, ride height gadget to control, Michelin tyres to work out and a shit ton more power and different electronics. Mind boggling.
I remember when a fellow racer gave me a spin on his zxr750 superbike at Ruapuna with a reversegear shift lever and with just that change to deal with I was more than a second slower a lap.
Are these modern racers even human? Dna tests required!

thats why some are called aliens

[jellywrestler]

Holy crap, just saw this article on crash. BOTH young Moto 3 riders involved in the warm up lap of the Moto 3 race the other week suffered cardiac arrest. WTF!

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/10...rash-reporting

not uncommon with highly fit sports people, something to do with lactose levels i read.

[roogazza]

not uncommon with highly fit sports people, something to do with lactose levels i read.

Mate, the two of us are going to have to be careful .

[jato]

good to see a spirited ride by pedro this morning. a slightly scaled down version of that track would be good to have in nz. who's got a couple of hundred acres spare?

[Reckless]

good to see a spirited ride by pedro this morning. a slightly scaled down version of that track would be good to have in nz. who's got a couple of hundred acres spare?

Gary Stirling's (aka MottoTT) new track at Thunderridge is supposed to have a fair bit of elevation over a lap.

Cant wait to have a go




PS The sprint was one of the best MottoGp races I have seen

[BMWST?]

Pecco has surely lost 3rd plce in the champoinship .He is now -35 points to Bez. He is now only 4 points ahaad of Acosta but Digi and Frankie cant cathc him now. I would almost Guarantee that Acosta will outscore him by more than 4 points in the last round.
Another inexplicable weekend.
Paddock pass Podcast now reckon that Aprilia are a real threat to Ducati. Without Marc they dont really have any reiable feedback on the GP25 because both Pecco and Digi have been so inconsistent.Frankie has also been inconsistent in the last few races. Its gonna be Gresini who develop the GP26???

[Reckless]

Pecco has surely lost 3rd plce in the champoinship .He is now -35 points to Bez. He is now only 4 points ahaad of Acosta but Digi and Frankie cant cathc him now. I would almost Guarantee that Acosta will outscore him by more than 4 points in the last round.
Another inexplicable weekend.
Paddock pass Podcast now reckon that Aprilia are a real threat to Ducati. Without Marc they dont really have any reiable feedback on the GP25 because both Pecco and Digi have been so inconsistent.Frankie has also been inconsistent in the last few races. Its gonna be Gresini who develop the GP26???

I think MM may not help for a ridable bike as proved at Honda.
He can ride a bad bike and make it look good, therefore making the development go in his direction, which is further away from an easier bike to ride.
MM is a bit like Verstappen in F1 more Alien than anyone can match.
Ducati's best bike was the 24 they went down a hole with the 25, they lost the feel and hope they can reverse with the 26, only time will tell
Ducati will have to be aware of the MM effect, he is almost to good, if you get what I mean.

Looks like we will have Martin and Vinales back for the final round.

[iYRe]

Bulega on MotoGp:

On the differences between WorldSBK and MotoGP, Bulega: "I HAD TO CHANGE MY STYLE, MY HEAD ALMOST EXPLODED..." After his first day on the GP25 prototype in official competition, Nicolo Bulega revealed the differences between SBK and MotoGP.
"Right now I don't see anything extraordinary or impossible. It's just that everything I do on the GP25 is different from the Panigale: I'm talking about braking, downshifting, corner exit, and braking. Once you combine all these things and complete a lap, your head explodes (smiles). The rear brake at the end is like a scooter, I even use it in SBK and I really like it."
🗣️ Speaking of braking, what's the difference?
"In SBK you can be as aggressive as you want, whereas here you can't. The truth is I had to change my style, and after two years in SBK, it's not easy to change in one day. If I can be more natural, I can do better.
🗣️ Back to the SBK comparison, is there a big leap compared to MotoGP?
"Nothing crazy. SBK is not Moto2, even physically, SBK trains you more, and you come more prepared for MotoGP. I'm here to work and I'll maintain the same approach for Saturday and Sunday, where there will be racing, which I've never done before.
🗣️ Is there anything different in the garage?
"I know the Ducati method and it's the same. In SBK, when you come back to the pits, you have 5-6 people in front of you, here there are 10-15 people in front of you."

[F5 Dave]

I think MM may not help for a ridable bike as proved at Honda.
He can ride a bad bike and make it look good, therefore making the development go in his direction, . . .

It's the engineers that make the decision and read the data.
Honda proved they were in a tailspin, but i think that was of their own makingg.they kept getting worse even after he left.
And yes he makes do.
But it could also be that the 25 is 0.smidgeon better if you ride it in a precise way. Maybe MM was able to do that so computer says YES.
It doesn't make it a better racebike, just theoretically better over a lap perhaps.
Put them all on GP24 including a fit Martin and I think MM still would have won, just not near as comfortably and bad luck could have turned the tide. Like a late season injury perhaps.

[iYRe]

It's the engineers that make the decision and read the data.
Honda proved they were in a tailspin, but i think that was of their own makingg.they kept getting worse even after he left.
And yes he makes do.
But it could also be that the 25 is 0.smidgeon better if you ride it in a precise way. Maybe MM was able to do that so computer says YES.
It doesn't make it a better racebike, just theoretically better over a lap perhaps.
Put them all on GP24 including a fit Martin and I think MM still would have won, just not near as comfortably and bad luck could have turned the tide. Like a late season injury perhaps.

I think you're both right.
I think that when MM gets on, they stop trying to fix the rideability issues - because he just "makes it work (tm)"

With Ducati, the development was already done before Mark was involved, so I dont think that was the issue personally. I reckon is shows that any of those guys will be fast on a "perfect" bike, but when there is an issue with the bike, that's when the aliens stand out from the crowd. If MM is racing still in 2027, things could be very interesting

[iYRe]

MM on Rossi:

“Rossi obsessed? Everyone sees things differently,” he began.

“I’m not there looking back. If I win my 10th world championship, I don’t think he’ll worry.


“And, honestly, I don’t care. I’m focusing on those who bring me value.




“What if we met? No, we wouldn’t say hello. He doesn’t need me, and I don’t need him. But motorcycling, yes, needs both of us.”

I thought the last line was correct, and very wise. I think if MM quit now, MotoGP would become very boring, until the next Alien arrives - maybe that's Acosta? TBH, I feel like it could be FQ when he gets a bike thats not 10kmh slower than everyone else.

[F5 Dave]

It's both of them. Martin was Alien Adjacent. A fully fot Martin on a bike he likes would be formidable. I think we have been cheated by life (F.you life, what have you ever done for us?) By Martin getting injured and progressively sulky.
Imagine him 3 races into the series, getting used to the bike and with a point to prove to stick one on Team Ducatis eye?

Ah well, may never happen.

But of Pecco. What has changed with him and his bike?

So. . . Maybe it is What has changed with other bikes?
Get a grip Dave, you're blabbering.
Ok but maybe the aero on the Katoom and Appleandpear has changed to create a really dirty wake that the Dooclatteries get upset by? Specifically the 25s. MM is not in that wake. Either is Alex on the 24. Except when he is down the field and he gets stuck there.
But Pecco favours the shorter fork and soft front springs.. Maybe the bike sits further in the stroke making the aero more problematic?

Ok really ramblings but it's Friday.

[Reckless]

It's both of them. Martin was Alien Adjacent. A fully fot Martin on a bike he likes would be formidable. I think we have been cheated by life (F.you life, what have you ever done for us?) By Martin getting injured and progressively sulky.
Imagine him 3 races into the series, getting used to the bike and with a point to prove to stick one on Team Ducatis eye?

Ah well, may never happen.

But of Pecco. What has changed with him and his bike?

So. . . Maybe it is What has changed with other bikes?
Get a grip Dave, you're blabbering.
Ok but maybe the aero on the Katoom and Appleandpear has changed to create a really dirty wake that the Dooclatteries get upset by? Specifically the 25s. MM is not in that wake. Either is Alex on the 24. Except when he is down the field and he gets stuck there.
But Pecco favours the shorter fork and soft front springs.. Maybe the bike sits further in the stroke making the aero more problematic?

Ok really ramblings but it's Friday.

That bloody Hutt Valley Houch is good aye mate going by the above LMAO.
I know it is, I have a sister in Naenae

But seriously
I think the 25 is a fickle bike and the 24 rock solid, they are hoping they know why. Interesting theory about the aero
Martin biggest problem is Martin his head thinks he is better than he is even tho that is alien some days. Be interesting to see how he comes back with his teammate doing so well.
MM is alien everyday, including in the gargage with the team. Same as Verstappen in F1.
They say most of racing is done off track. I spend 4 times as much time in the garage as I do ontrack, plus exercise
Really interested to see how Toprac goes? That COULD put the cat amongst the Pigeons, although the yamaha is sruggling a lot pretty sure he is not going to ride it any better than Fabio - if he stays??.