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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Well, that would have to be one of the most confusing, crazy and unpredictable motogp races I have ever seen!
    Well done Zarco, My heart was in my mouth for those final 10 laps or so, I was with his team silently screaming at him to slow down, and he just kept going faster and faster! He deserved that and what a fantastic life long memory for him!
    MM did really well to keep his all or nothing tendencies in check and bring it home in 2nd. That new bloke Aldeguer is proving to be very impressive and a leading light for the future.
    Poor Bagnaia, seeing an image of him looking super depressed in the pits was hard to see. I hope he finds what he is looking for really soon.

    I know I have put the boot into Maverick for years now and frankly I thought he was ill suited to the ktm, but I was wrong.
    He is in the best vein of form I have seen from him for many years, and he is being consistent with it. Well done Maverick for issuing me with a hearty fuck you and you don't know what you are taking about
    Bang on Sugilite saved me typing it
    Great race I bet we wont see a rider reaction and especially a crowd like that for a Loooong time, damn near had a tear in my eye
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reckless View Post
    Bang on Sugilite saved me typing it
    Great race I bet we wont see a rider reaction and especially a crowd like that for a Loooong time, damn near had a tear in my eye
    i think most would agree that the french national anthem is a real soul stirrer even id you aren't French!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWST? View Post
    i think most would agree that the french national anthem is a real soul stirrer even id you aren't French!
    I am part French!
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    About the most confusing start ever but a worthy winner. Now for a vinho tinto before dinner.
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    some comments from Marc:
    🗣️ “The only small mistake I did was during the second long lap,” he confessed. “I almost hit Fermin [Aldeguer] because I wasn’t sure if I was meant to serve it then.”

    🗣️ “Everything else was exactly how I planned,” he said, emphasizing how his Jerez crash taught him restraint: “Without that mistake in Jerez, maybe today there would’ve been another one.”


    🗣️ “He (Zarco) was faster than us. I pushed for two laps but saw I was only a few tenths quicker. Eight seconds [gap] is too much, so I said: let’s bring home the 20 points.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by iYRe View Post
    some comments from Marc:
    Interesting, Marc saying he decided to bring it home in second, As I was watching the race the thought crossed my mind but it was blocked out by the idea of him slowing down! Madness! He always goes for the Win! Win or Bin MM!
    Is he calming down after a decade and a half? Interesting.
    Compare Pornography now to 50 years ago.
    Then extrapolate 50 years into the future.
    . . . That shit's Nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel pig View Post
    Interesting, Marc saying he decided to bring it home in second, As I was watching the race the thought crossed my mind but it was blocked out by the idea of him slowing down! Madness! He always goes for the Win! Win or Bin MM!
    Is he calming down after a decade and a half? Interesting.
    Maybe his goals have moved from winning now, to winning in the end, if you know what I mean. He started doing it on the Honda at the end, and even last year. He's always been a smart racer, maybe he has just got wiser too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel pig View Post
    Interesting, Marc saying he decided to bring it home in second, As I was watching the race the thought crossed my mind but it was blocked out by the idea of him slowing down! Madness! He always goes for the Win! Win or Bin MM!
    Is he calming down after a decade and a half? Interesting.
    Conditions would have played a large factor in that.
    He did say he pushed for a couple of laps but 8 seconds was too much risk.
    Plus it depends when the decision was made. After Pecco went down or after his brother went down .

    Guaranteed championship points while his rivals got none
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    I recall reading how Croz said a safe second is worth more than a gloriously fought DNF
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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    He has learnt his lessons from Austin and Jerez,and said as much. He actually said that if he hadnt crashed at Jerez there may be an 80 percent chance of crashing here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iYRe View Post
    Maybe his goals have moved from winning now, to winning in the end, if you know what I mean. He started doing it on the Honda at the end, and even last year. He's always been a smart racer, maybe he has just got wiser too.
    LoL, something tells me it won't last!

    I was so pleased for Zarco when he finally won in Phillip Island, one of his best tracks. But the motorcycle gods really turned it on at Le Mans.

    Mat Oxley made the interesting comment that the GP24 is the best bike on the grid. Alex was way faster than his brother at the start of the race, so that appears true in the wet.

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    I saw an article on crash regarding an interview with MM. Marc said he was developing the bike while Peco was trying to get feeling back by reverting back to the GP24 specs. Polite slight against his struggling team mate aside, I could not but help think that is where Honda fell into a trap that they are only now years later beginning to escape. That being developing a bike using Marc's feedback into a bike only he can ride. I'm sure Ducatti are aware, but yeah.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    I saw an article on crash regarding an interview with MM. Marc said he was developing the bike while Peco was trying to get feeling back by reverting back to the GP24 specs. Polite slight against his struggling team mate aside, I could not but help think that is where Honda fell into a trap that they are only now years later beginning to escape. That being developing a bike using Marc's feedback into a bike only he can ride. I'm sure Ducatti are aware, but yeah.......
    I thought Ducati's rule was develop a bike anyone can ride, then tweak each one for its rider so they get the feeling they want.

    I suspect the realisation Pecco is slowly coming to is that while he is fast, he is not MM fast, or even FQ fast. I reckon you put fabio quartararo on Pecco's bike and him and MM would be having a good old battle every week. They're saying that the gp24 guys are riding the exact same speed as Pecco was last year, which seems to reflect that sentiment.
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    Replying to the last two comments.
    Good point about the GP24
    I think Ducati do have that bike that suits most riders, even with the GP25 look at Fermin Aldeguer for example
    BUT MM is developing his bike to his way of riding, even his brother can't match him, nobody can consistently.
    Hence the different directions because hopefully Pecco knows chasing an MM set up doesn't work for anyone else.
    Proven by the Honda History.

    Love him or Hate him he is the best rider, best racer, most talented, most intelligent racer we have ever seen.
    The movie they make about him is going to be a must watch LOL.

    I just wish the bikes loose some of their aero and ride assist so riders can ride around the issues so set up is no longer the overriding factor.
    There is a lot of damn good riders out there realy struggling atm.
    On a Motorcycle you're penetrating distance, right along with the machine!! In a car you're just a spectator, the windshields like a TV!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reckless View Post
    Replying to the last two comments.
    Good point about the GP24
    I think Ducati do have that bike that suits most riders, even with the GP25 look at Fermin Aldeguer for example
    BUT MM is developing his bike to his way of riding, even his brother can't match him, nobody can consistently.
    Hence the different directions because hopefully Pecco knows chasing an MM set up doesn't work for anyone else.
    Proven by the Honda History.

    Love him or Hate him he is the best rider, best racer, most talented, most intelligent racer we have ever seen.
    The movie they make about him is going to be a must watch LOL.

    I just wish the bikes loose some of their aero and ride assist so riders can ride around the issues so set up is no longer the overriding factor.
    There is a lot of damn good riders out there realy struggling atm.
    I agree totally. There is the Marc Marquez: Trophy Hunter doco which is worth a look if you havent seen it.
    If we get more races like sunday it should be an interesting time for the next few months
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