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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Wonder if you would still feel that way if one of your own children was immuno-compromised? Would you be willing to sacrifice your own child on the alter of "natural rights"?

    And remember, this covid-rodeo isn't over yet. Something may happen within your family to present you with that actual choice.
    I know someone in that exact scenario. They didn't trust that masks and vaccines were enough regardless so took their own precautions, limiting their child's exposure to others. Their child is still healthy and well today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    I know someone in that exact scenario. They didn't trust that masks and vaccines were enough regardless so took their own precautions, limiting their child's exposure to others. Their child is still healthy and well today.
    I am in that exact scenario and spent the first ten years of my daughters life keeping her away from runny noses and people coughing. All friends still know not to bother coming around if they have a cold because they will be told to fuck off. Shit, we even built a sleepout so we could quarantine her or one of the family if they had something that could affect her. She is 17 now and we have relaxed an awful lot over the last few years but we were totally anal during covid. Even the dog had a mask.

    That last bit isn't true obviously, we had the dog put down because it would not use hand steriliser. But for the sake of my first born I did a lot of stuff during the covid days that I would not have normally done. Pretty sure I would not have got vaccinated if it wasn't for her because the Government telling me what is good for me is all a bit suss if you ask me, particularly when it comes to injecting shit into your body. But, knowing family friends who did die of respiratory problems during the covid days meant it was an easy decision to make.

    Can't see the point of this report. Big fat waste of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    I've seen Warwick in a nurses uniform so does that mean he's got more knowledge?
    You said you wouldn't tell anyone about that
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    About six mins in Mike gets into the report. And like he says it’s pretty damning given the previous govt stacked the inquiry crew with their chosen faithful who were actually refreshingly honest in their conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    I dont give a fuck about those selfish cunts. And usually they were people who would live through it, unfortunately. The thing that got to me was the fact they gave precisely zero fucks about anyone else - in particular to those who were vulnerable by age (babies, children, or elderly) or other infirmity.

    No wonder it was seized on by the maggots and their ilk - their "ethos" (not sure it deserves that title) of "Fuck you, I got mine" fits perfectly.

    Basically it is the death of the social contract.
    And what do you say to the majority who abandoned the protection layers the day the govt removed restrictions. Suddenly at the stroke of midnight the majority people no longer gave a damn about social distancing or masks and flocked to rock concerts, pubs, parties etc
    Surely if people believed a large portion would have carried on wearing masks.
    I just came back from overseas and our international airport is a complete joke and whatÂ’s worst the biggest offender was the MPI check area. We are cramped into an overcrowded hot humid hallway with poor ventilation queung for checkpoint.
    The peoples who job it is to keep us safe donÂ’t even care, what does that tell you.

    And even at the start of covid the govt didnÂ’t even believe in the protection measures they forced upon society. They slowly incrementally brought things in as they knew it was wrong to force it. Very few people wore masks until it was law.
    Then thereÂ’s the sector of society that is obsessed with telling other people off that just thrived on telling other people what to do. There was a lot of them but you you wonÂ’t see them still wearing masks anymore even though all the experts say the next pandemic is just around the corner.

    LetÂ’s not forget this virus was allegedly evolving into deadlier variants continuously (unlike normal viruses that mutate into weaker forms and die off) then like magic devolved into nothingness when we stopped all protection measures????
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Nothing that the government did or enacted affected me adversely to any great degree and I am still alive so I am happy. Couldn't GAF about someone else's perceived infringement of personal liberties other than to note that, they too are still alive - which in some cases is quite unfortunate.
    You must be very wealthy. The measures the govt took smashed many small businesses and the spraying of govt Money fuelled the fire of inflation to massively increase our cost of living. Post pandemic more vulnerable elderly people are prob dying early by not being able to afford a healthy diet or winter heating. Worldwide reduced access to heating is a proven early killer of elderly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    I know someone in that exact scenario. They didn't trust that masks and vaccines were enough regardless so took their own precautions, limiting their child's exposure to others. Their child is still healthy and well today.
    People taking their own precautions for their own health.

    This is something I will defend the right to do so - and it is absolutely the right way to do things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    You must be very wealthy. The measures the govt took smashed many small businesses and the spraying of govt Money fuelled the fire of inflation to massively increase our cost of living. Post pandemic more vulnerable elderly people are prob dying early by not being able to afford a healthy diet or winter heating. Worldwide reduced access to heating is a proven early killer of elderly.
    You're out of touch with pensioner facts. We get a winter heating supplement.

    Well, we have the last few winters. God only knows what this cost cutting mob will do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    You must be very wealthy. The measures the govt took smashed many small businesses and the spraying of govt Money fuelled the fire of inflation to massively increase our cost of living. Post pandemic more vulnerable elderly people are prob dying early by not being able to afford a healthy diet or winter heating. Worldwide reduced access to heating is a proven early killer of elderly.
    Not at all. I was working in IT support on about $70k and also getting married couple superannuation. The company paid everyone at the reduce rate during the lockdowns, but not going anywhere much limited the unnecessary spending as well. We have solar power which took care of some of the bill, and a decent stack of firewood.
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    You're out of touch with pensioner facts. We get a winter heating supplement.

    Well, we have the last few winters. God only knows what this cost cutting mob will do.
    Well they’ve got inflation under control which hits poorest hardest.

    Interest rates are dropping fast.

    They are removing barriers to providing housing 60m2 no consents.

    Roads are being improved to help economic activity.

    Police have upped their game just incase you ain’t been reading news…

    Ramraids are down

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    Broadly speaking the pandemic showed there were two main groups of people: those who care about life, and those who care about money. There were also a few keen to demonstrate that they would fail Darwin's fitness test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Broadly speaking the pandemic showed there were two main groups of people: those who care about life, and those who care about money. There were also a few keen to demonstrate that they would fail Darwin's fitness test.
    You can care about life while being economically responsible.


    Year
    World Population
    Yearly
    Change Net
    Change Density
    (P/Km˛)
    2024 8,161,972,572 0.87 % 70,237,642 55
    2023 8,091,734,930 0.88 % 70,327,738 54
    2022 8,021,407,192 0.84 % 66,958,801 54
    2021 7,954,448,391 0.86 % 67,447,099 53
    2020 7,887,001,292 0.97 % 75,707,594 53
    2019 7,811,293,698 1.05 % 81,390,917 52
    2018 7,729,902,781 1.10 % 84,284,827 52
    2017 7,645,617,954 1.15 % 87,063,428 51
    2016 7,558,554,526 1.18 % 88,062,654 51
    2015 7,470,491,872 1.20 % 88,875,628 50
    2014 7,381,616,244 1.23 % 89,822,659 50
    2013 7,291,793,585 1.26 % 90,591,100 49
    2012 7,201,202,485 1.27 % 90,278,720 48
    2011 7,110,923,765 1.27 % 89,191,617 48
    2010 7,021,732,148 1.28 % 88,965,732 47
    2009 6,932,766,416 1.29 % 88,308,754 47
    2008 6,844,457,662 1.29 % 87,148,881 46
    2007 6,757,308,781 1.29 % 85,856,766 45
    2006 6,671,452,015 1.28 % 84,481,883 45
    2005 6,586,970,132 1.29 % 83,592,360 44
    2004 6,503,377,772 1.29 % 83,016,138 44
    2003 6,420,361,634 1.30 % 82,631,292 43
    2002 6,337,730,342 1.32 % 82,793,883 43
    2001 6,254,936,459 1.35 % 83,233,466 42
    2000 6,171,702,993 1.36 % 82,696,654 41
    1999 6,089,006,339 1.36 % 81,939,649 41
    1998 6,007,066,690 1.39 % 82,278,874 40
    1997 5,924,787,816 1.42 % 82,732,082 40
    1996 5,842,055,734 1.44 % 83,176,752 39
    1995 5,758,878,982 1.47 % 83,327,727 39
    1994 5,675,551,255 1.50 % 84,006,458 38
    1993 5,591,544,797 1.55 % 85,554,981 38
    1992 5,505,989,816 1.61 % 87,253,925 37
    1991 5,418,735,891 1.71 % 90,932,781 36
    1990 5,327,803,110 1.78 % 93,371,378 36
    1989 5,234,431,732 1.80 % 92,439,190 35
    1988 5,141,992,542 1.83 % 92,246,145 35
    1987 5,049,746,397 1.85 % 91,673,559 34
    1986 4,958,072,838 1.83 % 89,129,373 33
    1985 4,868,943,465 1.81 % 86,767,946 33
    1984 4,782,175,519 1.81 % 84,847,946 32
    1983 4,697,327,573 1.84 % 84,654,152 32
    1982 4,612,673,421 1.85 % 83,896,115 31
    1981 4,528,777,306 1.83 % 81,171,070 30
    1980 4,447,606,236 1.81 % 79,066,708 30
    1979 4,368,539,528 1.78 % 76,442,026 29
    1978 4,292,097,502 1.76 % 74,233,706 29
    1977 4,217,863,796 1.78 % 73,617,419 28
    1976 4,144,246,377 1.81 % 73,511,100 28
    1975 4,070,735,277 1.86 % 74,319,181 27
    1974 3,996,416,096 1.93 % 75,611,054 27
    1973 3,920,805,042 1.97 % 75,887,362 26
    1972 3,844,917,680 1.99 % 75,069,815 26
    1971 3,769,847,865 2.03 % 75,164,071 25
    1970 3,694,683,794 2.08 % 75,192,215 25
    1969 3,619,491,579 2.10 % 74,304,328 24
    1968 3,545,187,251 2.07 % 71,774,371 24
    1967 3,473,412,880 2.04 % 69,371,755 23
    1966 3,404,041,125 2.08 % 69,507,422 23
    1965 3,334,533,703 2.15 % 70,046,364 22
    1964 3,264,487,339 2.25 % 71,679,511
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    About six mins in Mike gets into the report. And like he says it’s pretty damning given the previous govt stacked the inquiry crew with their chosen faithful who were actually refreshingly honest in their conclusions.
    Pretty damning my arse. NZ had a world leading response. WTF did Laws expect? OK some people less equipped to deal with life's challenges felt inconvenienced. Tough. Other people couldn't travel quite as intended. Again tough. Millions of people died but some people here still don't get it.

    There are currently three diseases threatening to break out into major epidemics: measles, whooping cough and bird flu. So Trump has appointed RFK Jr to head up health. Perhaps we should "seal the borders" to keep all the idiot Yanks inside? /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    2024 8,161,972,572 0.87 % 70,237,642 55
    2023 8,091,734,930 0.88 % 70,327,738 54
    2022 8,021,407,192 0.84 % 66,958,801 54
    2021 7,954,448,391 0.86 % 67,447,099 53
    2020 7,887,001,292 0.97 % 75,707,594 53
    2019 7,811,293,698 1.05 % 81,390,917 52
    2018 7,729,902,781 1.10 % 84,284,827 52
    2017 7,645,617,954 1.15 % 87,063,428 51
    2016 7,558,554,526 1.18 % 88,062,654 51
    2015 7,470,491,872 1.20 % 88,875,628 50
    2014 7,381,616,244 1.23 % 89,822,659 50
    2013 7,291,793,585 1.26 % 90,591,100 49
    2012 7,201,202,485 1.27 % 90,278,720 48
    2011 7,110,923,765 1.27 % 89,191,617 48
    2010 7,021,732,148 1.28 % 88,965,732 47
    2009 6,932,766,416 1.29 % 88,308,754 47
    2008 6,844,457,662 1.29 % 87,148,881 46
    2007 6,757,308,781 1.29 % 85,856,766 45
    2006 6,671,452,015 1.28 % 84,481,883 45
    2005 6,586,970,132 1.29 % 83,592,360 44
    2004 6,503,377,772 1.29 % 83,016,138 44
    2003 6,420,361,634 1.30 % 82,631,292 43
    2002 6,337,730,342 1.32 % 82,793,883 43
    2001 6,254,936,459 1.35 % 83,233,466 42
    2000 6,171,702,993 1.36 % 82,696,654 41
    1999 6,089,006,339 1.36 % 81,939,649 41
    1998 6,007,066,690 1.39 % 82,278,874 40
    1997 5,924,787,816 1.42 % 82,732,082 40
    1996 5,842,055,734 1.44 % 83,176,752 39
    1995 5,758,878,982 1.47 % 83,327,727 39
    1994 5,675,551,255 1.50 % 84,006,458 38
    1993 5,591,544,797 1.55 % 85,554,981 38
    1992 5,505,989,816 1.61 % 87,253,925 37
    1991 5,418,735,891 1.71 % 90,932,781 36
    1990 5,327,803,110 1.78 % 93,371,378 36
    1989 5,234,431,732 1.80 % 92,439,190 35
    1988 5,141,992,542 1.83 % 92,246,145 35
    1987 5,049,746,397 1.85 % 91,673,559 34
    1986 4,958,072,838 1.83 % 89,129,373 33
    1985 4,868,943,465 1.81 % 86,767,946 33
    1984 4,782,175,519 1.81 % 84,847,946 32
    1983 4,697,327,573 1.84 % 84,654,152 32
    1982 4,612,673,421 1.85 % 83,896,115 31
    1981 4,528,777,306 1.83 % 81,171,070 30
    1980 4,447,606,236 1.81 % 79,066,708 30
    1979 4,368,539,528 1.78 % 76,442,026 29
    1978 4,292,097,502 1.76 % 74,233,706 29
    1977 4,217,863,796 1.78 % 73,617,419 28
    1976 4,144,246,377 1.81 % 73,511,100 28
    1975 4,070,735,277 1.86 % 74,319,181 27
    1974 3,996,416,096 1.93 % 75,611,054 27
    1973 3,920,805,042 1.97 % 75,887,362 26
    1972 3,844,917,680 1.99 % 75,069,815 26
    1971 3,769,847,865 2.03 % 75,164,071 25
    1970 3,694,683,794 2.08 % 75,192,215 25
    1969 3,619,491,579 2.10 % 74,304,328 24
    1968 3,545,187,251 2.07 % 71,774,371 24
    1967 3,473,412,880 2.04 % 69,371,755 23
    1966 3,404,041,125 2.08 % 69,507,422 23
    1965 3,334,533,703 2.15 % 70,046,364 22
    1964 3,264,487,339 2.25 % 71,679,511

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Pretty damning my arse. NZ had a world leading response.
    The only reason NZ had a world leading response was because of factors that were outside of the Government control.
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