A real statement

[Kb2020dope]

What parts do you disagree with?
Are you saying that going in there and intimidating the parents and small children is the done thing?
Are you also saying that guys that wear dresses and read books to children are worse than priests that sexually abuse children?? What made you pick on the guys in dresses to rough up as against priests that abuse kids? Do you view trans guys as just being softer targets that are less likely to hit back or what?

No problem, brother.

We acted appropriately and with integrity.

We believe that certain ideologies—such as encouraging young children to embrace gender confusion—should not be imposed on them.

While we acknowledge that churches naturally pass on values and beliefs to the next generation, we stand by the fact that ours are grounded in principles we consider to be pure and constructive.

This is part of our broader stand against what we see as a harmful cultural shift. We do not support individuals who falsely claim religious authority while engaging in unethical behavior.

If there is pushback, we are prepared to stand firm in our convictions.

Thankyou

[pritch]

We do not support individuals who falsely claim religious authority while engaging in unethical behavior.

Hmmm interesting.

[Laava]

Hmmm interesting.

Hahahahahahahahaha!😂😂😂😂😂

[pete376403]

[QUOTE=Kb2020dope;1131238705 We do not support individuals who falsely claim religious authority while engaging in unethical behavior. [/QUOTE]

Does brian know this?

[sugilite:Me]

No problem, brother.

We acted appropriately and with integrity.

Well, except for the making the children cry thing through your thuggish actions. Interesting you confirm you were there to terrify the children in person.

If there is pushback, we are prepared to stand firm in our convictions.

Thankyou

Look at the words of a founding member of the thug up, opps I mean man up group. He takes a big pooh on your notions of integrity.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2025/09/13/d...ber-of-man-up/

I wonder if you will ever yourself realize that if you were to witness someone making your kids cry through thuggish behavior you would at the very least pound their faces, but somehow when you do it you deem it to be "Acting Appropriately with dignity".

I would assume with trump putting ghislaine maxwell into a holiday camp jail you now realize he is protecting himself and other pedophiles in that ring?

And you never did explain why you target transvestites reading to children in libraries while giving the many, many pedo priests a free ride?

[Kb2020dope]

Well, except for the making the children cry thing through your thuggish actions. Interesting you confirm you were there to terrify the children in person.




Look at the words of a founding member of the thug up, opps I mean man up group. He takes a big pooh on your notions of integrity.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2025/09/13/d...ber-of-man-up/

I wonder if you will ever yourself realize that if you were to witness someone making your kids cry through thuggish behavior you would at the very least pound their faces, but somehow when you do it you deem it to be "Acting Appropriately with dignity".

I would assume with trump putting ghislaine maxwell into a holiday camp jail you now realize he is protecting himself and other pedophiles in that ring?

And you never did explain why you target transvestites reading to children in libraries while giving the many, many pedo priests a free ride?

Hey bud,

I honestly respect your passion and to be honest if I was reading this article and was not present i would be right behind you.

Unfortunately, you were not there. Therefore you dont 100% know what happened. You are reading/ believing 2nd or 3rd hand information and we know how much the nz media love chinese whispers.

We do a lot of good in our community and I can promise you that the children were safe at all times and we communicated with the parents about our peaceful protest. All though many of these parents being fairly woke, they accepted our right to protest ( we respect them for this).

I can say I know this member. Unfortunately this member has gone down a bad path and was removed and trespassed before this comment.

This statement is his way of revenge (im sure with what he was running on he had a few sleepless nights to plan this).

You have the right to your own opinion but I hope you look at both sides equally.

Thanks

[sugilite:Me]

Nice attempt and some revisionist history there. I'm sure you will have seen video of thug up aggressively pushing their way past library staff, pushing and yelling and screaming, then performing a very loud and to a child - super aggressive haka. You say you were protecting children - you were not - you were terrifying them. Something you would not allow your own families children to endure I'm most sure.

You completely fail to address my other question, so I will expand on it in case you do not understand it. I witness Destiny Church actively engaging the LGBTQ community in a very aggressive manner. You yourself say this is out of concern for children. I accept that is your right. What confuses me, is there is much more readily available verifiable damage being done by many, many priests, vicars and so on sodomizing and raping children. Yet your "church" chooses to do nothing against them, and they are not hard to find. I would say active protest against the LGBTQ community and doing nothing whatsoever against the very real and ongoing abuse by powerful churches, many who go out of their way to cover it all up amounts to tacit acceptance and protection for these monsters. You yourself greatly admire trump who is supposedly in the most powerful position in the World, who is also on tape as boasting about how because he is the owner of the beauty pageant, that gave him a license to barge into a woman's/young girls dressing rooms multiple times to enjoy looking at their naked bodies. I will also add in a video showing trump is in the epstein files complete with photos showing him with epstein and VERY young girls.

Hey bud,

I honestly respect your passion and to be honest if I was reading this article and was not present i would be right behind you.

Unfortunately, you were not there. Therefore you dont 100% know what happened. You are reading/ believing 2nd or 3rd hand information and we know how much the nz media love chinese whispers.

We do a lot of good in our community and I can promise you that the children were safe at all times and we communicated with the parents about our peaceful protest. All though many of these parents being fairly woke, they accepted our right to protest ( we respect them for this).

I can say I know this member. Unfortunately this member has gone down a bad path and was removed and trespassed before this comment.

This statement is his way of revenge (im sure with what he was running on he had a few sleepless nights to plan this).

You have the right to your own opinion but I hope you look at both sides equally.

Thanks

[Kb2020dope]

[QUOTE=sugilite;1131241347]Nice attempt and some revisionist history there. I'm sure you will have seen video of thug up aggressively pushing their way past library staff, pushing and yelling and screaming, then performing a very loud and to a child - super aggressive haka. You say you were protecting children - you were not - you were terrifying them. Something you would not allow your own families children to endure I'm most sure.

You completely fail to address my other question, so I will expand on it in case you do not understand it. I witness Destiny Church actively engaging the LGBTQ community in a very aggressive manner. You yourself say this is out of concern for children. I accept that is your right. What confuses me, is there is much more readily available verifiable damage being done by many, many priests, vicars and so on sodomizing and raping children. Yet your "church" chooses to do nothing against them, and they are not hard to find. I would say active protest against the LGBTQ community and doing nothing whatsoever against the very real and ongoing abuse by powerful churches, many who go out of their way to cover it all up amounts to tacit acceptance and protection for these monsters. You yourself greatly admire trump who is supposedly in the most powerful position in the World, who is also on tape as boasting about how because he is the owner of the beauty pageant, that gave him a license to barge into a woman's/young girls dressing rooms multiple times to enjoy looking at their naked bodies. I will also add in a video showing trump is in the epstein files complete with photos showing him with epstein and VERY young

Hey bud,

Take a breath and collect your thoughts. Your comments are coming across as disorganised and unfocused — address one issue at a time instead of mixing unrelated points.

If you were less erratic and more organised, you could be a politician. You clearly know how to spin a story.

I was present, and I stand by what I saw and did. That will not change. Also, a haka is not an act of violence — please learn about the cultural context before making that claim.

At this point your statements are moving into conspiracy territory. I suggest returning to verifiable facts and avoiding wild speculation.

Try be 10% better with your next post, it'll go a long way.

Thanks in advance.

[pritch]

Hey bud,

Take a breath and collect your thoughts. Your comments are coming across as disorganised and unfocused — address one issue at a time instead of mixing unrelated points.

If you were less erratic and more organised, you could be a politician. You clearly know how to spin a story.

I was present, and I stand by what I saw and did. That will not change. Also, a haka is not an act of violence — please learn about the cultural context before making that claim.

At this point your statements are moving into conspiracy territory. I suggest returning to verifiable facts and avoiding wild speculation.

Try be 10% better with your next post, it'll go a long way.

Thanks in advance.

Perhaps it's more a comprehension problem? I've never had any problem understanding sugilite.

All this anti LGBTQ rhetoric is imported. People pushing this nonsense lack the intelligence and originality to focus on something meaningful to this country. What kind of idiot gets upset about the colour of a pedestrian crossing?



Update: Just came cross the attachment on Facebook. It's Australian but applies equally here. We don't need the crap that is being shovelled in the US or by Farage in Britain.

[sugilite:Me]

Hey bud,

Take a breath and collect your thoughts. Your comments are coming across as disorganised and unfocused — address one issue at a time instead of mixing unrelated points.

If you were less erratic and more organised, you could be a politician. You clearly know how to spin a story.

No need to "take a breath and collect my thoughts" as I have plainly and non sensationally stated my points with complete sentences, full stops, paragraphs with videos to back them up. I have noted your previous requests for me to make my points somehow even simpler. I have decided not to cater to KB's lowest denominator as such - just in order to validate your somewhat strange desire to be acknowledged as not being to sharpest tool in the kb shed.

Let us cut to the chase, the only reason you post such requests is in an effort to not address clearly connected points. And look, I get it, even TDL has given up defending the indefensible over at the trump thread.

I was present, and I stand by what I saw and did. That will not change. Also, a haka is not an act of violence — please learn about the cultural context before making that claim.

I'm well aware of what a haka is. However, did the very young children there that you "claim" to protect know that? Or did they just see a large amount of angry people push and barge their way in and start chanting, stamping and screaming, because in their eyes and very frightened emotions that is exactly what they would of seen and interpreted. I put it to you that you did not give one single thought to how your actions would come across to the children you falsely profess to want to protect.

At this point your statements are moving into conspiracy territory. I suggest returning to verifiable facts and avoiding wild speculation.

All three videos I posted show otherwise. Likely the only people swallowing your words are you and Dean - the rest of us have eyes and ears and are not too cowardly to use them.

Try be 10% better with your next post, it'll go a long way.

Thanks in advance.

Again, your words are just obvious weakness and deflection. Go back to my previous, perfectly legible post, and actually answer my questions with real answers pertaining to the clearly stated subjects. This pretending you do not understand is not highlighting the strength and mana that you so clearly wish that you could put forward. Currently you are not even attaining the standard of defending the indefensible.

[TheDemonLord]

All this anti LGBTQ rhetoric is imported.

No, I don't think it is, per se.

Whilst a lot of both Pro- and Anti- Ideas have been imported to a degree, there needs to be local factors that are applicable for the ideas to take root.

And on the Anti- side, what is specifically comes down to is that the Alphabet lobby has effectively breached their side of the Social Contract.

What was the original plea for Gay Rights?

"We just want to be left alone to love who we love, so that we can be happy" - An Idea that most people agree with. Yes, there are people that hold sincere religious belief who do not condone it, however even they have been persuaded in time to "Love the Sinner, hate the sin"

And for the most part, wider society has upheld their end of the bargain (yes, there will be homophobic incidents, you can never get rid of hate) - but have they upheld their part about being happy?

See, if you ask me to do something for someone, in order to make them happy - so long as it's not unreasonable and done in good faith and I am able to do what is asked - most of the time I will do it.

But if you keep asking me to do more and more to make someone happy, it becomes more and more apparent that no matter what I do, they will never be happy - and that is the surest way to use up all good will.

That, in my opinion, has not been imported.

People have seen it in their daily lives that no matter what is done, a small (but very vocal) minority are still unhappy. That unhappiness is the fertile ground for wider, secular support, for the Anti- side.

[sugilite:Me]

I don't disagree with what you say at all, especially the part about a subgroup that feed off never being happier than when they are "correcting" you to their reality. A sure path to incinerating any public good will built up towards their cause. For me, somewhere in the middle lies balance.
However, I do feel Pritch is referencing the LGBTQ situation as part of a much larger package of the sheer hate and callousness currently erupting in the USA political system wrapped up with a large side helping of faux Christianity. Unfortunately that is most certainly being adopted and adapted here in NZ, and that to me is both alarming - and depressing.

No, I don't think it is, per se.

Whilst a lot of both Pro- and Anti- Ideas have been imported to a degree, there needs to be local factors that are applicable for the ideas to take root.

And on the Anti- side, what is specifically comes down to is that the Alphabet lobby has effectively breached their side of the Social Contract.

What was the original plea for Gay Rights?

"We just want to be left alone to love who we love, so that we can be happy" - An Idea that most people agree with. Yes, there are people that hold sincere religious belief who do not condone it, however even they have been persuaded in time to "Love the Sinner, hate the sin"

And for the most part, wider society has upheld their end of the bargain (yes, there will be homophobic incidents, you can never get rid of hate) - but have they upheld their part about being happy?

See, if you ask me to do something for someone, in order to make them happy - so long as it's not unreasonable and done in good faith and I am able to do what is asked - most of the time I will do it.

But if you keep asking me to do more and more to make someone happy, it becomes more and more apparent that no matter what I do, they will never be happy - and that is the surest way to use up all good will.

That, in my opinion, has not been imported.

People have seen it in their daily lives that no matter what is done, a small (but very vocal) minority are still unhappy. That unhappiness is the fertile ground for wider, secular support, for the Anti- side.

[jellywrestler]

[QUOTE=Kb2020dope;1131241349]

Also, a haka is not an act of violence — please learn about the cultural context before making that claim.

it's a war dance, specifically designed to scare it's recipients, while not violent is it appropriate to do it in faces of young children who have suddenly been overrun by a bunch of terrorists

[Kb2020dope]

I log in after a hard, yet rewarding day of work. Im just looking to cover piper on the on this day thread. I truly hope he is ok.

I turn up to find two essays from suglite, once again they dont make any sense! I feel like a teacher trying to grade the work of a child with fetal alcohol syndrome. Sugilite, you were 5% better, i am proud. Good boy.

Laava, you can do better. Get involved, speak your mind, people may disagree with you but it is not the end of the world.

Pritch, I actually respect your opinion and will reply a bit later.

Thanks gents

[Dean]

All three videos I posted show otherwise. Likely the only people swallowing your words are you and Dean - the rest of us have eyes and ears and are not too cowardly to use them..

Hmmm well now I feel compelled to reply since you brought me into it.

Firstly, I hope you and family are well.

Now, I don’t agree with everything KB2020 says, and I don’t want to talk about Destiny Church related content. But happy to chat on other things.

As you were.

Cheers,
Dean