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    New tyre fitting method?

    This from Facebook. Tyre fitted using zip ties. No tools needed.

    "First time trying the zip tie method for mounting my new Michelin anakee road tire. I put the slightly inflated tube covered in silicone spray inside the tire first, then gently zip tied around the tire gradually until the beads were almost touching. Then I sprayed the beads of the tire and after gently inserting the valve stem into the wheel first, I was able to slip the tire onto the rim. Took about 30 seconds and zero tools. New mounting technique unlocked 👍.

    I also backed my bike onto a board and that made putting it up on the center stand so much easier. Two great things I learned today. Just wanted to share so hopefully it’ll help someone else out."
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    Tube installation

    When fitting a tube install it deflated as little air in as possible so it doesn’t get pinched between the tyre bead and when the tyre is on the rim inflate the tube with pressure and then deflate tube and bounce the tyre about to make sure that the tube has seated in the tire and no folds or twist of the tube then inflate to correct pressure.
    Talcum powder is good lubricant between tyre and tube

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    This from Facebook. Tyre fitted using zip ties. No tools needed.

    "First time trying the zip tie method for mounting my new Michelin anakee road tire. I put the slightly inflated tube covered in silicone spray inside the tire first, then gently zip tied around the tire gradually until the beads were almost touching. Then I sprayed the beads of the tire and after gently inserting the valve stem into the wheel first, I was able to slip the tire onto the rim. Took about 30 seconds and zero tools. New mounting technique unlocked 👍.

    I also backed my bike onto a board and that made putting it up on the center stand so much easier. Two great things I learned today. Just wanted to share so hopefully it’ll help someone else out."
    Did you actually do this yourself? Was wondering how well it works as, ordinarily, it has always seemed a bit strange that the first side slips on and yet the second side puts up a massive battle. I am aware that this is largely due to the wedge effect of the second bead slipping over as opposed to the first side which has the perfect shape to slip over. Also the tyre carcass construction makes it much harder to manipulate the second bead whereas the first bead is free to move in whatever direction it needs to…
    I fit all my own tyres but hate doing tube type as they are so much more hassle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laava View Post
    Did you actually do this yourself?
    No. I lifted it from a Brit group on Facebook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    No. I lifted it from a Brit group on Facebook.
    I am going to give it a go next tyre change. I believe you would need a dozen or so strong and releasable ties, lube and patience.
    Also can be used for removing? All of these technics would pretty much require the wheel being held securely in place, ie clamped down…
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    I made a board like this.

    And then sprained my thumb so bad I couldn't do anything like this so it waits a bit.


    The idea is you hold the rim against two waisted plastic bosses and slide or do up the bolt to clamp with the third one.
    You can drill more holes for 17", 18, 21.

    Of course it may fail or it may be inspired.

    This holds the wheel for you so you can stuff a tyre over it using your preferred method, whatever that turns out to be. Be it pushing levers mallet or cable ties.

    I did use a couple of sideways sockets against the opposite tyre bead to push it into the centre a bit while trying to get the difficult 2nd side in when I did the front on the 450MT. Actually works ok, just hard to describe in words.
    I'm still not very good at this despite changing a multitude of 125 size slicks back in the day.


    Balancer works very well. 4 bearings bought from, M10 for $10 on a card make the wheel frictionless.
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    I have this setup. A 20mm ply base with a ply ring attached with carpet. A "cricket bat" for debeading the tyre. I have a block screwed to the wall securely to use as a levering point. Lever is usually a length of 3x2. Then I chuck the board onto saw horses and attack with spoons and lube. Not perfect but functional with minimal outlay. I do not have a balancer but considering buying one to also use as a truing jig…
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    DeBeading? I have a tool that I copied that I call the Biddliser after my friend Keith (Av's Dad). It is a square lever with a small spade like fitting and you hook the end under a van towbar. With some wood in a square to rest the wheel on

    The balancer just takes a few planks. Then screwed angle to mount tiny ball bearings. Close to free. Works great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    DeBeading? I have a tool that I copied that I call the Biddliser after my friend Keith (Av's Dad). It is a square lever with a small spade like fitting and you hook the end under a van towbar. With some wood in a square to rest the wheel on

    The balancer just takes a few planks. Then screwed angle to mount tiny ball bearings. Close to free. Works great.
    funny it was Avs dad, as I stole this idea from Billie fuller 's Dad. who had let us use their own at Teretonga a few years ago.
    I couldn't find one the same and ended up buying one cnc plasma cut but same idea only adjustable like a slip wrench. $85 secondhand.
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    My son splashed out and brought one of these.

    I need to sort out a stand for it though. so you don't need to be on your knees like Karen's rent boy
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    I am making a couple of balance stands as they can also be used to have the tire warmers on in case it is on a drying track they can be kept at temp and go on hot.
    Hanging them on bungies and tiedowns is no longer a fun activity.

    That said race tire are easy; some mx tires, depending on the carcass construction, are a form of torture. What I have found is to get the second side over the wheel it helps if the other side is pushed well into the rim well.



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