Did the Epstein file kill itself?

[Katman]

Does anyone buy the story that there's nothing to see here now?

[R650R]

What do we actually know at a baseline level that is factual beyond the original deceased offender?
What is the file? From memory of original news stories it’s just a flight log.

Seems like a big case of guilt by association so far with big names from both sides of political spectrum.
Plenty of people have hung out with Golhriz Grababargain but that doesn’t make them shoplifters.

I love a good conspiracy theory but this one’s lacking in any depth outside of our own prejudices about people in positions of power.

[pritch]

What do we actually know at a baseline level that is factual beyond the original deceased offender?
What is the file? From memory of original news stories it’s just a flight log.

Seems like a big case of guilt by association so far with big names from both sides of political spectrum.
Plenty of people have hung out with Golhriz Grababargain but that doesn’t make them shoplifters.

I love a good conspiracy theory but this one’s lacking in any depth outside of our own prejudices about people in positions of power.

We don't "know" much at all beyond that he died in prison and that his defence attorney was Alan Dershowitz. Epstein had a private Island in the US Virgin Islands. Yes, there is slight irony in that name. He had a 'plane on which he'd fly people to his island where they would be entertained. Young ladies (too young) entertained guests with 'massages'. Dershowitz admitted one such but claimed he kept his undies on.

There are, or were, flight logs including passenger manifests. We know that Virginia Giuffre was recruited from Mar A Lago where she worked. We know that she took legal action against Prince Andrew and that he settled. We know that she died in Perth, her death ruled as suicide.

There were detailed accusations of violent rape which are believed to have been withdrawn after death threats. And yes, Trump is believed to have featured. We don't 'know' that though. Yet.

There is speculation that there may be video evidence although that may be wishful thinking.

We know that Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison for her part in these proceedings. She was sentenced to twenty years "following a one-month jury trial, of conspiracy to entice minors to travel to engage in illegal sex acts, conspiracy to transport minors to participate in illegal sex acts, transporting a minor to participate in illegal sex acts, sex trafficking conspiracy, and sex trafficking of a minor." We know that she did not do all that for her own 'entertainment'. We know that she has appealed to the Supreme Court for review of this conviction.

[pete376403]

We know that Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison for her part in these proceedings. She was sentenced to twenty years "following a one-month jury trial, of conspiracy to entice minors to travel to engage in illegal sex acts, conspiracy to transport minors to participate in illegal sex acts, transporting a minor to participate in illegal sex acts, sex trafficking conspiracy, and sex trafficking of a minor." We know that she did not do all that for her own 'entertainment'. We know that she has appealed to the Supreme Court for review of this conviction.

The trumpster point of view is, nothing happened. So why then is Maxwell in prison?

[pritch]

The trumpster point of view is, nothing happened. So why then is Maxwell in prison?

Good question. Trump would presumably like to pardon her but even MAGA would think that was suspicious. There are legal moves underway because today is a deadline for the DoJ. Papers have been filed but I need to pay more attention to understand wassup.

Maxwell has applied for the Supreme Court to review her case. That would not be normal. SCOTUS review cases if there are complicated points of law or if two different appeals courts come up with different decisions. None of that applies in this instance.

[pritch]

Well we can forget the fantasies about which party wants what regarding the Epstein files. The Democrats moved a vote on releasing the files and all but one Republican voted against having the vote. It's definitely the Republicans in Congress who want to keep it quiet.