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    OK. It's nothing to do with standards but it's a helmet. No test yet? An interesting approach.
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    Was going to say they already tried that. But wait.. from the rear. Wonder if that compromised the protection there? If not it looks like a good concept. Hmm, would need real good test to see if it can be pulled off when in a crash, as you don't want too hard a plate under your chin.
    Try your hand under your chin as it is were part of the retention.
    Position it so it is secure and comfortable and you can't imagine the helmet ever coming off in a rough and tumble accident.
    Now ram that hand back into your throat as if your helmet took a face first hit.

    Oww.
    I imagine they have a cleverer retention system but my first proof of concept prototype failed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Was going to say they already tried that.
    I think it was Schubert with a front opening one
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    That rearwards opening helmet looks interesting. The only thing I really wonder assuming it's structural integrity is still good is - how many emergency response people would know how to remove it?

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    And how do you remove it if it jams in the closed position? I was on a ride when someone couldn't open his flip-front helmet. It took some time, and he was very stressed by then.

    Also, I think you really need a strap to keep a helmet securely in place during a crash.

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    Well actually that's a very valid point.
    Patient laying unconscious and anything other than face down. Good luck removing helmet.

    I had a mate that had a dymo print tape (remember them?) Saying ""In event of accident do not remove helmet" on his chinbar. The idea being that it could in certain situations cause spine damage.
    He had a point. At first aid courses I usually have a spiel about check if you need to, and how to support head while another removing by pulling straps apart. But only if not breathing.

    On other had you can see some busy body trying to yank stuck new tangled Why won't this come off?? Helmet.
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    I don't know about other brands, but Shoei helmets have quick removable chin pads for that very reason. Then cut the strap and the helmet should come off easily.

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    I have a shoei, but the conversation is about this new type. Also I don't expect you will be lucky enough for a responder to know or take the time to look and say. Hey, look at these things on the bottom of the helmet, I bet if. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    I have a shoei, but the conversation is about this new type. Also I don't expect you will be lucky enough for a responder to know or take the time to look and say. Hey, look at these things on the bottom of the helmet, I bet if. . .
    Yeah, I've had that thought.. Hopefully it's part of paramedic training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaferRides View Post
    Yeah, I've had that thought.. Hopefully it's part of paramedic training.

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    Dave is correct. Showed paramedic friend a new Shoei awhile ago and they’d never been made aware of anything like that. And if you see the volume of knowledge they must learn, plus updates to their procedures that come often they already have too much to keep up with.

    Ideally those tabs need bigger more prominent text but remind the buyer of their mortality probably isn’t good for sales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Dave is correct. Showed paramedic friend a new Shoei awhile ago and they’d never been made aware of anything like that. And if you see the volume of knowledge they must learn, plus updates to their procedures that come often they already have too much to keep up with.

    Ideally those tabs need bigger more prominent text but remind the buyer of their mortality probably isn’t good for sales.
    That's not surprising but still disappointing. My last 3 Shoei helmets have had EQRS and most of the other brands have adopted it for sports and dirt bike helmets at least. Maybe stickers on the helmet would help, but if you don't know it exists then you wouldn't look for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaferRides View Post
    That's not surprising but still disappointing. My last 3 Shoei helmets have had EQRS and most of the other brands have adopted it for sports and dirt bike helmets at least. Maybe stickers on the helmet would help, but if you don't know it exists then you wouldn't look for it.

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    Maybe the next evolution we’ll see of airbag technology. Post impact inflation of neck stabiliser, air driven jack internally splits helmet after several minutes stationary.
    Internal helmet pads could be air instead of foam make putting helmet on easier too and ensure perfect fitment…,
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