ADDING FUEL TO THE CAR vs BIKE DEBATE CURRNTLY GOING ON

**T.W.R** · 26th October 2005, 08:07

Seeing the debate happening in other posts, thought i'd pop this into the picture.
Dollar for Dollar Cars can't be closely compared to Motorcycles! The Cars that get close to Motorcycles for performance aren't even close price wise!
Show me a $20k Car that compete with a $20k bike?, cars that can are the prices of a house or more. check the file of a ZX12R topping out then try finding a car of similar value doing the same in stock condition doing the same mmm! also check www.sportbikez.net for the R1vsPorsche at Nurbergring clip mmm! $20k bike vs $300k car & the R1 doesn't even break a sweat ( goin no higher than 4th to keep the porsche contained, plus the dude riding isn't pushin hard at anytime yet the porsche does suspect passes etc)
As for standing quarters, Cycleworld (US) posted a host of low 10sec passes & a 9.89sec quarter in 1985 on a Yamaha V-MAX ( thats 20yrs ago remember!) plus there are plenty of stock bikes that will do the same or similar ( how many stock cars will come close? very very few! plus the ones that can how much do they cost compared to the cost of the bikes? absolutely no comparison!) check the pic of a 90' GSX-R1100L ( stock) that posted a 9.66sec quarter at 143.54mph.

Sure there aren't many riders capable of achieving such times but a bike will do it easier than a car will ever do, particularly in stock trim.
also worthy of note in 1992 the suzuki RGV250 of the year was the most powerful road legal production vehicle available for litre of capacity 74hp/250cc = 296hp/1000cc better than the supercar of the time! a Ferrari F40 550hp/4000cc = 137.5hp/1000cc.

sure cars go fuckin fast when money is thrown at them but check my post ( hairy chested muscle) on what happens when serious coin is put into a bike, remember its 1988 & the bike is a 80' model CBX Honda taken out 1.7lt 1000hp 250mph+ . And also as most know you don't have to blow shitloads of coin to haul some serious power out of a bike.
Dollar for dollar & bang for buck a bike fucks over a car everytime!

**DMNTD:Me** · 26th October 2005, 08:22

Holy fark me!!

Awesome vid mate...didn't quite get a good view at his speedo but looked like 320 or 40 eh?

**Mooch** · 26th October 2005, 08:36

We all seem to forget the kit cars based on the lotus super 7 with the V8 onboard. Westfiled I think , don't cost a lot, it's humbled most bikers on a meduim to tight circuit. I also have a vid of a Ruf 911 old school dealing to large bike after large bike on Nurbergring in fact , every other car as well. Sure bikes are cheaper , but don't be fooled on tight corners.

**T.W.R** · 26th October 2005, 08:53

yeah 340kmh / 12500rpm taken totally to the max, obviously with the 290kmh limiter removed & even with calculated speedo error its well over 200mph. the thrill factor still is in the bikes favour & how about the Triumph Rocket3 measured at pulling 1.3g under acceleration mmm?

**T.W.R** · 26th October 2005, 09:03

Kit-cars mmm? not stock production vehicles are they, try comparing them to the likes of fastbike internationals toys (egli based monsters) the thrill factors still well in the bikes favour. P.S if you want plans for a lotus7 kit-car i've got a complete set ( the old man used to build them)

**DMNTD:Me** · 26th October 2005, 09:13

Originally Posted by T.W.R

... & how about the Triumph Rocket3 measured at pulling 1.3g under acceleration mmm?

Hell that beats my tractor anyday! Cool looking bike too-different for sure.
Hey does ya Dad know anything about the AC Cobra kit cars too? Very interested in picking one up in the future.

**Mooch** · 26th October 2005, 09:20

Originally Posted by T.W.R

Kit-cars mmm? not stock production vehicles are they, try comparing them to the likes of fastbike internationals toys (egli based monsters) the thrill factors still well in the bikes favour. P.S if you want plans for a lotus7 kit-car i've got a complete set ( the old man used to build them)

This was one of the versions , not a kit car , can be brought turn key
http://www.westfield-sportscars.co.uk/megabusa.htm

**Karma** · 26th October 2005, 09:24

Speed : Bike > Car

Fun / Manuevability : Bike > Car

Rain : Car > Bike

Doing a weeks shopping : Car > Bike

Simple really.

I'd never give up my bike... but I'd not give up the car either.

**DMNTD:Me** · 26th October 2005, 09:28

Originally Posted by Mooch

This was one of the versions , not a kit car , can be brought turn key
http://www.westfield-sportscars.co.uk/megabusa.htm

Impressive wee toy

**T.W.R** · 26th October 2005, 09:30

nah hes pushin up daisys dude, been gone 14yrs

**Motu** · 26th October 2005, 09:31

I paid $100 for my Charade Turbo,I think it would of blown away quite a few bikes - I don't think I've ever had a bike with that much performance per dollar.

**T.W.R** · 26th October 2005, 09:36

stuck in traffic bike>car
road congestion bike>car
economy bike> car
thrills bike>car
cost bike>car

and i've got both, a toyota chaser & toyota landcruiser plus the ZXR

**N4CR** · 26th October 2005, 09:43

Originally Posted by Motu

I paid $100 for my Charade Turbo,I think it would of blown away quite a few bikes - I don't think I've ever had a bike with that much performance per dollar.

Hmm me and my mates got a Honda City that we called starfish for that price.

Cut part of the the roof off with a plasma torch, made wooden 'spinners' for wheels and painted them silver, 'chromed' the engine bay with silver spray paint, put in a gigantic intercooler off a modded rx7 and proceeded to go hooning around waterbombing kids even while one of the front wheels had a 20deg camber

Edit: and flamepainted it with spraycans

And yeah it was fucking fun. Don't know if it was very legal though....

BUT AT LEAST IT WASN'T A DAIHATSU!!!!

put the turbo on a bike d; ?

**T.W.R** · 26th October 2005, 18:21

Originally Posted by Mooch

This was one of the versions , not a kit car , can be brought turn key
http://www.westfield-sportscars.co.uk/megabusa.htm

yep nice car, but i'll just whip down the shop & get one ( ha yeah rite!) oh thats right theres a couple of ZX12Rs, R1s, CBR 1000, GSX-R1000s, 999s, RSVs,TL1000s to choose from.
cars like the westfield aren't easily obtained yet pick the hyperbike you want & its there ready to thrill you.
get the point?
plus what do we all have bikes for ? the entertainment, the enjoyment, and the thrills!. cars are a neccessary evil, a workhorse, a mode of transport for getting from A to B.