is it actually worth watching?
is it actually worth watching?
Those who insist on perfect safety, don't have the balls to live in the real world.
BET YOU WOULD TOO IF YOU HAD A DECENT BIKEOriginally Posted by Kickaha
It's funny how everyone is so quick to judge here. Those who hate the pigs, and those who have obviously no idea what a runner involves.
A "runner" on a bike usually involves 15 seconds of being "chased", and between 1 and 10 minutes of solid fanging to make sure it's a done deal. "In traffic" just means you're doing it at lower speeds, but not necessarily by much. Whether the cop pulls out of the chase or not is usually irrelevant since they're usually not in the picture by that stage. Of course, it might be different if you've got less than 120hp and more than 170kg of bike.
WINJA, I give you cred in some respects, the pigs lied, they shoulda been buttf***ed for it. But if it had been me, I woulda still been going hard no matter whether the pigs were still in it or not. Of course, I'd like to think I'm not dumb enough to crash just to get off a ticket so probably wouldn't have killed the girl - pigs or no pigs.
What I find particularly amusing is where the pigs will chase. What a Commo driver would think they have a shitshow against a modern sportsbike I dunno... maybe they try it on and hope the guy/girl stops, figuring some will some won't.
"You, Madboy, are the Uncooked Pork Sausage of Sausage Beasts. With extra herbs."
- Jim2 c2006
It helps if you can ride though....Originally Posted by madboy
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A skilled commo driver should be able to cane an average rider on an R1 or gixxer thou.Originally Posted by madboy
well... an skilled commo driver will be able to push beyond their limits thats for sure. The rider aint gonna give up because their a better driver, he'll just twist the throttle earlier.
Have to say if the cops play safe then people will run all the time and the only thing that would catch them is a tracking device. If there were enough cops on the road they could plan something and wait for the runners to get caught in heavy traffic or something.
But a bike can keep on running until either they lose the police, crash, or run out of gas. If that cop got right next to him what could he do? knock him off? push him onto the footpath? politely ask him to stop? nothing. It would be almost impossible to safely block him off. Especially without a large back up.
hehehe just ask Nuanh about Motoracer, Chloe and I in the race van at the last KB Waikato Rally...Originally Posted by justsomeguy
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That Nepalese fellow is good eh.. did 110 around a 55 corner one day back from Taupo in a fully loaded van and the only way I knew how fast he was going was by looking at the speedo.....Originally Posted by Two Smoker
Heard of the eagle??Originally Posted by Pathos
Only a few can outrun that.
Originally Posted by justsomeguy
uh, yeah,
maybe if by skilled you mean an ex-racing driver and by commo you mean touring car
or unless if by average rider someone who nana's it around corners and canes it on the straight, remembereing that the average rider is probably quite capable of pushing quite hard for the short period of time that it takes to find an escape road and that they are going to be doing this if they are being chased
dont unterestimate them because they are usually are law abiding and don't like to draw attention to themselves on a day to day basis
from my experience of doing runners (very very limited (don't start with lectures as I'm sure whatever you did when you were young nulifies your arguments)) the testosterone starts flowing and all clarity of mind goes out the window and all you can concentrate on is getting off the road your on as fast as humanly possible
I have no experience of riding an r1 or gixxer thou but if what people have been telling me is correct then they handle like they are on rails and the average joe blogs can push them a hell of a lot harder than you give them credit for, providing they have the necessary motivation.
Originally Posted by Skyrider
ah toucheOriginally Posted by justsomeguy
but have you heard of having escape plans and underground parking buildings?
no need to run if you are prepared
Originally Posted by Skyrider
GET YA HAND OFF IT , GIVE ME AN NSR250 OR RGV 250 AND ILL BEAT ANY COP CAR EXCEPT FOR THEIR TOP END SPEED , AS FOR MY GIXXER1000 ITS GAME OVER PIGGY WIGGY , SOME PEOPLE JUST ARENT RIDERS AND A COP IN A MORRIE MINOR WOULD CATCH THEM , HOPE THIS HELPS HIJRAOriginally Posted by justsomeguy
A GPZ1000RX CAN OUT RUN THE EAGLE , ESPECIALLY WHEN THE EAGLE HAS LANDED IN A BALL OF FLAMES AT SPAGHETTI JUNCTIONOriginally Posted by mini_me
By - average rider I mean - a nana....... But I now take it back - cos thinking bout it - the kind of people who do runners wont be nana's........
Otherwise they wouldn't have the confidence to do the runner in the first place.
And mini me -- either you have an exceptional knowledge of those areas around Auckland - or you're a naughty boy who goes out for a bit ofafter planning it before hand..... pretty
way to get some kicks mate
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I'm glad Wgtn doesn't have a chopper. I'd rate myself against any Commo, can't say I've been up against a bike yet, but I've read the power/weight stats and I'm not losing sleep over it. But a chopper? Underground carparks are getting risky, you want escape routes. You don't wanna run the risk that the cops have enough bodies/time to block the exits and sweep the carpark. In saying that, if it's the only option...
From my experience in fast cars, I know that there's no certainty through the twisties that a bike will beat a car. Commos might be fat and sloppy, but there is still the potential that you strike the odd copper who can drive. I counter this by taping or removing the plate when I'm out for a fast ride. That way if they do get close, who cares? I'll just wait for the next straight. How many cars, lights and sirens or not, can split down the middle of a two lane road, right on the centreline at 260k? Dangerous it may well be, but try that in a Commo when you've got one car going your way at 100k and another coming toward you at 100k. Commo backs off until either or both cars move, meantime you're another km ahead.
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