Government own the police, and the government favour big buisness over the public. The police will have the right to access eftpos records and demand people to pay up whether it's fair or not
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Government own the police, and the government favour big buisness over the public. The police will have the right to access eftpos records and demand people to pay up whether it's fair or not
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like the police, the government are not above the law and so have no rights to breach the privacy act in obtaining bank records or details. no law was broken so they have no reason for warrant.Originally Posted by alarumba
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Nah we don't actually have any privacy from anyone financially. If a Govt. agency demands electronic transaction details they can get them a number of ways, all legally. This particular piece of legislation was introduced when Jim Bolger was PM, and like all things that disadvantage NZers unfairly, there was barely a ripple of interest.
The legislation presented here: http://www.ird.govt.nz/technical-tax...kaccounts.html
gives the government access to your accounts any old how. There was a bit of a murmur when it was realised that it opened up inter departmental information sharing that was previously help in confidence by each department, but like all "good" Kiwis, the attitude was; "If you're not doing anything wrong, you've nothing to worry about."
Of course people forget that the Govt. is run by humans who screw up all the time like the rest of us. You have no protection from a Govt department who screws up if no legal action can be brought to bear. Which is usually the case when they screw you up without you knowing until you access the relevant information.
So, no, there's no privacy issue there at all. You don't have any.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
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thats good to know, but it seems to be more about if you had a tax debt and the govt suspected that you had or will be obtaining funds from overseas to pay the tax debt, i doubt that the govt. will have much legal right to check out someones personal accounts for no reason.
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if I nick items from the 'honesty' snack box at work, is it stealing?
"but, orificer, I never entered into no contract!"
think.
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i don't need to think about that, of course its steeling if you TAKE something and you haven't paid for it, but these people purchased the petrol, its completly different.
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That is merely the tip of the iceberg. Prior to this legislation, Ministry for Social Policy had no access to your financial details. All Govt. Depts now share information, inc. IRD.
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ON THE NEWS THEY SAID HE LOST ABOUT $2000 , AN AVERAGE BURG WOULD BE WORTH MORE THAN THAT SO HOPEFULLY THE PIGS WILL PRIORITISE IT AT THE END OF THE 5 YEAR WIATING LIST , FUCK THAT GASSY OWNER HE WONT MAKE THAT FUCK UP AGAIN , AS FOR GIVING AWAY EFTPOS DETAILS I THINK THAT WOULD BE ILLEGAL IF ANYTHING
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its not an honesty box, same as saying I nick a car from a lot without paying for it!
just the method of payment is through the box rather than a human, same as the eftpos fuel thingys
-Some petrol stations dont advertise the price of 98 96 super or whatever the fuck they call it these days on the signs, so your only indication is at the pump! if its cheaper than it should be there, and you buy it is that theft?!
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Yes it is. If a person is capable of driving a car then they have to be able to read. The argument that the pump price was inaccurate may be correct but that would apply if the person unintentionally filled up. The question (as in most cases) is intent. The intent to defraud the petrol station of goods ie. petrol by paying a lesser price than is normal is theft. The fact that they went back is proof of intent. Once is a mistake, twice is premeditated - requiring thought, thus intent (to defraud).
The reality is, I don't think they'll (The station owners) will push the issue too much. They probably made more sales from the publicity!!
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IVE SMASHED UP A VENDING MACHINE CAUSE IT RIPPED ME OFF $1 , I PULLED THE PLUG FROM THE WALL AND USED MY LEATHERMAN TO CUT THE TERMINALS OFF THE PLUG , THEN I KICKED IN THE PLASTIC FASCHIA , JUST THROWING THIS IN HERE CAUSE I HAD A CONTRACT WITH A MACHINE THAT SAID "COKE $1 A CAN" . IF I CALLED THE COPS THEY WOULD NOT HAVE GOT MY MONEY BACK FROM COKE SO I DID IT MY WAY , BTW THEY HAVE A 3 PIN PLUG SO YOU CAN UNPLUG THE MACHINE AND PLUG IN YOUR ANGLE GRINDER AND HACK AWAY
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are you saying that no one with a NZ driving license is dyslexic?
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I like the way your mind works.
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I think you're all missing the one major point here...
Whether it was a legal contract or not, and whether the motorists should pay full price or not... that garage owner is going to lose more than $2000 dollars business from people that are objecting against him getting the police involved against the drivers, thereby proving that he should have just shut up about the whole thing. Could have even turned it into positive PR and a bit of a laugh, rather than what it's now become. He's become a figurehead greedy petrol retailer.
Immature and proud of it.
You are completely missing the point.
The fuel was offered at a price. There were no conditions as to how much you could buy. The pump didn't tell them it was a mistake. They are not required to second-guess the proprietors intentions.
People bought it, they went back and bought more.
It is NOT illegal to buy fuel at any price.
PS. Does anyone know if this is the same gas station that charged a 15% public holiday surcharge this year?
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
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