NZ Motorists

[James Deuce]

OK, maybe this will convince you.
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/road-user-sa...f-changes.html

I'm not convinced and the reasons were detailed in the media at the time the change came into effect. Without changing the statute that defines a lane as its own highway it isn't enforceable, and certainly ISN'T enforced at all, except when a driver or rider crosses a centre line.

I'm all for it, don't get me wrong, but it isn't going to happen in NZ unless people get fined heavily for it and a motorway takes on the same status it has in, for instance, the UK, where the motorway in its entirety is the designated, numbered highway.

[chris]

I'm not convinced and the reasons were detailed in the media at the time the change came into effect. Without changing the statute that defines a lane as its own highway it isn't enforceable, and certainly ISN'T enforced at all, except when a driver or rider crosses a centre line.

I'm all for it, don't get me wrong, but it isn't going to happen in NZ unless people get fined heavily for it and a motorway takes on the same status it has in, for instance, the UK, where the motorway in its entirety is the designated, numbered highway.

I'm all for it too! For a driver to enter the motorway from an on ramp and then move straight over and sit in the overtaking lane is beyond me and creates traffic stacking. But, it still says what it says in the roadcode and some cocky arrogant policemenist is always gonna say 'have you read the roadcode sonny?'.

[James Deuce]

I'm all for it too! For a driver to enter the motorway from an on ramp and then move straight over and sit in the overtaking lane is beyond me and creates traffic stacking. But, it still says what it says in the roadcode and some cocky arrogant policemenist is always gonna say 'have you read the roadcode sonny?'.

I dread the Policemanist that take that approach too, but at the time Greg O'Connor assured us that they weren't able to police it effectively because of the conflict so they wouldn't. Which is a bummer, because I love driving on UK motorways, because you can usually overtake at will, so long as three llimited HGVs aren't trying to overtake each other at the same time.

[chris]

so long as three llimited HGVs aren't trying to overtake each other at the same time.

HGV's are not allowed to use the outside lane in the UK and neither are cars towing trailers. But if you have the whole of the M6 trying to pass two HGV's lumbering past each other by using the outside lane, bingo, traffic jam.
I know exactly what you like about driving in the UK though.

[Grahameeboy]

I am pretty sure that after the new rule was introduced, the Ltsa did a slight about turn and said that the new rule did not apply to Motorcylist as they need to be more visible....it was in the paper a few months back and I am pretty sure it was in one of the bike mags.
Anyway, hopefully the Police will not do anything, however, it only takes one knobby eh?

[KLOWN]

Talking about 4x4 thinking they are 'the king of the road' I used to own a mini and was driving down manaku rd in auckland when a 4x4 pulled out from a side street on my right about 3 - 4 cars ahead of me, he went into the medium strip as there was no room on myside of the road then after the 3-4 cars ahead of me went by him he drove into the side of me. To cut to the chase, he did this because no one was letting him in and he believed it was his right that people who had the right of way (me) should have stpopped and let him in. What a dickhead!! He thought since i was a smaller car i would've stopped when he pulled out.

[KLOWN]

Oh, thought i might add my two cents

I believe, like many others, the problem with all this poor driving is too easy driving test and too crap teachers. I used the AA driving school to teach me to drive and basiclly all it intailed was how to operate the car, ie: clutch control, gear changing etc. I passed my test with a perfect grade! All i did was drive around for about 10min and parallel park. What a load of shit! a monkey could have passed the test. But what really gets me is the defensive driving courses where u listen to some guy blah blah then sit a test and voila! 9 months off till you get your full licence. Where is the teaching on the open road, where is the teaching on how to handle a car in an emergancy situation, overtaking, skidding the list is endless no wonder so many people can't drive. We are left to learn for ourselves and we don't think twice about going into situations that we aren't ready for ie driving on the open rd at night or in the wet, cause SHE'LL BE RIGHT MATE! If only the shit drivers killed themselves instead of taking everybody else with them we would have safe roads in a few years
I realise this is more than two cents worth but this is one thing i abhore

ps LTSA and thier stupid speed add campaign all thier ads are dumb specially the one with the jogger who runs onto the road without looking, she deservers to get hit.

[James Deuce]

Talking about 4x4 thinking they are 'the king of the road' I used to own a mini and was driving down manaku rd in auckland when a 4x4 pulled out from a side street on my right about 3 - 4 cars ahead of me, he went into the medium strip as there was no room on myside of the road then after the 3-4 cars ahead of me went by him he drove into the side of me. To cut to the chase, he did this because no one was letting him in and he believed it was his right that people who had the right of way (me) should have stpopped and let him in. What a dickhead!! He thought since i was a smaller car i would've stopped when he pulled out.

Nice one Motu!

I hate that sort of stuff. Had it done to me by a school Mum, because, "Bikes are supposed to give way to cars". Uh huh.

[Lou Girardin]

That's not what it says in the Roadcode.

Read the legislation.

[chris]

Read the legislation.

What? Like every other average Joe car/bike owner will do. Most are just gonna read the Roadcode (well actually most obviously haven't or won't).

[Lou Girardin]

What? Like every other average Joe car/bike owner will do. Most are just gonna read the Roadcode (well actually most obviously haven't or won't).

So true.
But legislation is the font of all knowledge. (and stupidity)

[chris]

legislation is the font of all knowledge.

I thought that was The Simpsons??

[Posh Tourer :P]

I thought that was The Simpsons??

No, no, Family Guy (and American Dad) are the new Simpsons, and therefore the new font of all knowledge, but Futurama was a better font of all knowledge than the Simpsons anyway.....