Sex, your opinion wanted.

[heavenly.talker]

I was brought up to believe that relations were very special and that they should be saved for people I had a connection with.
My niece has been hooking up (having sex) with random's since she was 13 and her parents refused to believe it when the family gently broached the subject.
They are now shocked that she has moved in with a guy after only knowing him 5 months and that she is only 18.

She has been around the clock 2 or 3 times already!!!

With all the safe sex messages out there it's horrifying to think that kids are not riding in their wets!

[Colapop]

To be perfectly honest to have shagged 26 guys in a night is bullshit, it's a wind up. I mean how long does it take for a shag? 10mins on average (that's the poking aspect of things) so adding in all the usual pleasantries it could safely be assumed that 20 -30mins between shags would be about right. She'd have tohave been 'on the go' for 12 hours straight. Unless this party that was attended was an all naked party with no alcohol then I'm sorry to say I can't see that she would have got it away with that many guys in a night - the way kids drink these days there wouldn't have been enough standing. Are there any hookers out there who've done that many tricks in a night?

Sex is great. I love it. Sex for sport is great - IF you can be ABSOLUTELY %100 sure that each and every person you have sex with is a) totally sexually healthy (enough said about tha- speaks for itself), b) mentally healthy (do you really need another stalker?) and c) capable of understanding and accepting the consequences of the act of procreation (it's about making babies in a natural sense)
I'm trying to teach my kids the 3 R's - Responsibilty for your actions, Respect for yourself, and Respect for others. They are all equally as important as each other.
**Another parental rant done!**

[Lou Girardin]

One thing hasn't changed between generations.
Take the number of partners quoted, deduct their age, divide by 2, then halve the result.
That'll be closer to the truth.

[Drunken Monkey]

To be perfectly honest to have shagged 26 guys in a night is bullshit, it's a wind up. I mean how long does it take for a shag? 10mins on average (that's the poking aspect of things) so adding in all the usual pleasantries it could safely be assumed that 20 -30mins between shags would be about right. She'd have tohave been 'on the go' for 12 hours straight.

10 minutes for one shag? You're a staying power machine. Most of us could go about 20 times in 10 minutes. I hear White Trash could go even more...Also, you lack imagination. Any woman could easily have 5 on the go at once.

[Postie]

Some even look as though they just came out of the Catholic high school..

During a party, the girls have compitions amongst each other to see who can "hook up" with the most guys. At this party, the most inocent looking girl out of them all and the most quietest (when sober) was presumably the winner with a score of 26 different guys for that night. Some girls who managed to get under 20 guys felt insecure for not getting enough attention.

Catholic school girls..... dude.... wheres the invites??? we can knock up the numbers so every one can have 26......

[*sic]

hmm sad times that occasionally make me despair at the general public, but hey im all for it, when i see peeps get their rashes, and fall over from teh aids, i can smile.

its not for me but i really dont care to much about what people do in their sex lives, as long as the girl with me is not nasty.

[riffer]

While I doubt the veracity of the 26 guys in one night, it's more than likely they are talking about kissing, rather than sex.

Either way, its indicative of the lack of respect, both for others and themselves, that young people have.

Through my teenage years and early 20s, I played in bands throughout the country, and was exposed to a lot of this stuff.

I don’t feel that kids have changed too much. However, there seems to be a bit of shift in the female attitude. Girls show a lot more competitiveness, and even pride, in their sexual exploits, something that just WOULDN'T have happened in the 80s.

Your attitudes are to be applauded, Motoracer. They’re not different. You just show a lot more maturity than many of your peers.

Good on ya.

[Colapop]

... Any woman could easily have 5 on the go at once.

Yeah... man ... not much else to say about that

[Lias]

Normally when a chick is shagging 26 guys in a night, shes paying off a debt on the block :-P

[Paul in NZ]

I suspect there is a small percentage in every generation that carries on in this manner, just as there is others at the opposite end of the scale. It may be the current crop is a larger group than previous ones, perhaps due to issues like a lower drinking age and media driven peer pressures, or it may just be you are seeing this group first hand.

Btw, good on you for airing your concern

My background was more like Motus but I agree with what Sels1 says.

As a young man my hormones were just as active as anyone elses but this kind of activity has never ever appealed to me in the slightest. Yet I'm equally sure that some of the things I find sexy or erotic, others would find bland or even disgusting.... Like someone mentioned the Catholic Schoolgirl thing? Why? Sorry, don't get it and personally find it dodgy.

At one time there was a 'group' that worked in a fairly high tech area of the large organisation I was employed by, that organised regular socials within their area. Much was drunk and it was apparent that virtually everyone of them had at some stage or other had relations with each other... Yes the good old wife swapping days of the late 70's early 80's... Looking back, I think that really this sort of extreme sexual behaviour has appeared in nearly every society from the earliest days. Even in devoutly Muslim countries, I'll bet there are places where this happens, they are just a lot more secretive about it.

One observation I did make was that despite the "Oh we have an open relationship" bullshit, none of these couples survived this period of their lives without some significant damage. It was fun for a few months but the hurt, pain and suffering lasted a hell of a lot longer...

Once, many many years ago, while I was saving for my OE and didn't have a social life to speak of.. I took a second 'cashie' night job at a little 'Adults Supply' store. I thought it would be 'exciting' but in actual fact it was terribly depressing and very very sad and I got out as soon as I could. Happy well adjusted couples looking for a little excitement were a rareity and most customers were hoping that you could solve all their lifes problems with a quick fix in a brown paper wrapping... Quite depressing and very educational.... Mostly, sex was the least of their issues!

I'd be the last person to impose my values on others but my experience is that love exists in the world and is worth the search. While sex is a factor in a relationship, without the love (and by comparison) it is just an empty rush of body fluids and hormones. After 27 years together I have to say every year is better than the last and rather than being bored, I feel that I can relax and be myself with a person I don't need to appologise to or impress.

You probably can't help these people. They have been sucked in by the glossy magazines and the music videos and you will just appear uncool... Good on you for bringing it up but don't stress.. For every group like this there is a balancing act at the other end of the spectrum and all us muddlers in the middle.... Always has been, always will be.... (but I do think the graph is becoming a barbell rather than a bell curve these days)

[Postie]

Normally when a chick is shagging 26 guys in a night, shes paying off a debt on the block :-P

by hooking up, i am pretty sure M R is talking about kissing.....

[ManDownUnder]

20 - 26 sex partners in one night?!?

yeah - not good. It's a peer pressure thing - needing to keep up witht he mates and if that's the reason they're doing it they need help with their insecurities and naivety. They're young, they're experimenting and that's natural. But to push it that far that fast for those reasons is like hanging out a sign asking for a dose of the clap.

They may as well get the clap from a pill... it'd be safer - and then they'd know what clap(s) they're getting. With HIV and the various other STDs going around it's NOT something you want to open yourself up to. Who knows what the future will hold... unwanted/unplanned children, infertility, children born with disability, HIV ... the list goes on

It's a sad situation but it seems the young and bulletproof need to find some things out for themselves. Just as we do with the risks of motorcycling. There are some on here that have taken a spill, and with respect - it didn't really come as a great surprise. Their behaviour combined with their inexperience simply increased their changes of becoming a statistic.

In seeing those accidents we (hopefully) learn, get shocked and modify what we're doing... hopefully... in respect of sex there's a difference however because of the embarassment (who's going to admit to having the clap?) and/or HIV doesn't show up on tests (reliably) for 90 days... let's say they ease back to a "mere" 10 partners a week... and take 1 week's rest every months that.... (mental math here) that about 100 people possibly exposed to it.

.. great..

Now that all being said, and to HIGHLY generalise... there seems to be a clear delineation between those that "get" (i.e. understand) sex as a fun thing to do, possibly a pastime, and those that are more reserved about it.

I'm obviously in the *ahem* former category but even so see the need to put it in context. Despite the tone and BS in the posts I make... it ain't a contest. It's about fun, satisfaction (of your partner AND you), and closeness.

That's the way things have always been, but as someone else mentioned - it is then affected by the culture of the time. the 60's, the 70's etc. There was a time when penicillin was on hand and HIV wasn't around (mid 40's through '82 or so) when sex actually wasn't such a risk activity per se. Now it is, and we have the added "benefit" of the internet allowing people to meat up almost at random, at very short notice and as a result we're seeing record levels of STIs raging across the country.

It's hard to stop and think about that when the brain is flooded with hormones and you have a very attractive piece of anatomy wanting everything you've got. Combine that with the inability of the young to reasonably evaluate risk (see other posts made on frontal lobe development) and it's easy to see how/why we have an issue on our hands.

I think that's all I wanted to say... MR - brilliant post chap... seriously good.
MDU

[ManDownUnder]

GO DESTINY CHURCH

Where do you want them to go??

[kerryg]

I'm surprised. Pretty much every poster has the same opinion i.e. reckless promiscuity is a bad idea. Who would have thought it?

I think the 26 "hook-ups" (whatever that is) is at least an exaggeration, if not an outright mistake, but the point of view expressed by Motoracer is good to read. I reckon (almost can remember...it was a long time ago admittedly) young males are mostly always up for nookie, whenever/however it was offered, driven by hormones not logic. Offer a hungry man something to eat, he'll eat it. It may not be PC to say it, and I don't exempt males from responsibility, but I reckon the problem is that young women these days are educated to see sex as sport (young men always thought it was) rather than as the ultimate expression of intimacy reserved for someone they care about. I don't watch the TV programs or read the trashy magazines or go to the crappy movies but even so I am aware of the female stereotypes being broadcast at my daughters. Those "celebrities" are dressed like hookers, are very overtly sexualised, self-assertive, equal to men (hey..they always were, but being "as good as" doesn't have to mean being "the same as"). People will always have sex, young men will always grab it when its offered, ...it's a pity though that the last most precious act of physical expression humans are capable of is being sold for so cheap a price.

I know of a case, very close to me, where a 12 year old girl was caught having sex with a 15 year old boy. When her shocked and confused father asked her what she could possibly have been thinking, she replied " it's my body, what's your problem?". There was ABSOLUTELY no recognition of the importance of the act. This is what our children are being taught. Go figure.

[Karma]

But again, protected sex seem nonsence for younger generation (15-19years old) cause they can't except or simply not aware about age alone is not a shield for STD exp HIV,SIPLIS and ect...

Any lets not forget the biggest STD of them all.... pregnancy!

How many of us here do you think can claim to being a late night drunken mistake their parents made 23 years ago?