Foot pegs --fixed or folding ??

[FROSTY:Me]

Ive recently seen 2 guys crash on f3 race bikes.
In both cases they had solid mounted footpegs.So the peg doesn't fold.
They leaned into a corner and the peg dug into the track and lifted the back wheel.
I notice a lot of aftermarket race rearsets are also fixed.
Can someone please explain to me the advantages a fixed peg has over a folding peg --I just dont see it at the moment

[Ducman]

My take on it is as long as they are set high enough that they won't touch the ground while cornering, they will act as crash sliders and help protect gear, brake levers and to some extent engine cases when you do tip off. If they touch the ground while cornering they are just not high enough.

[SARGE]

My take on it is as long as they are set high enough that they won't touch the ground while cornering, they will act as crash sliders and help protect gear, brake levers and to some extent engine cases when you do tip off. If they touch the ground while cornering they are just not high enough.

yup... mine are fixed and shorter than stock for that very reason.. still gives me clearance and acts as sliders

[DEATH_INC.]

My take on it is as long as they are set high enough that they won't touch the ground while cornering, they will act as crash sliders and help protect gear, brake levers and to some extent engine cases when you do tip off. If they touch the ground while cornering they are just not high enough.

Yep,what he said,plus they're more solid,giving better feel,and you can't accidently miss 'em by pushing them up when you move your feet around.

[Sensei]

I see that Shaun Harris drill's his then put's a wire through them so they don't move when racing but if they hit the track they break the wire & fold up . Could ask him what advantage's this has but seem's like a excellent idea

[dveus]

I think im going to sort folding pegs for the NC30 this time. On my road bike with the folding pegs it gives you some warning when the start to scrape, with the fixed ones on by the time I realised the peg was down I was already in the air.

[TwoSeven]

Ive recently seen 2 guys crash on f3 race bikes.
In both cases they had solid mounted footpegs.So the peg doesn't fold.
They leaned into a corner and the peg dug into the track and lifted the back wheel.
I notice a lot of aftermarket race rearsets are also fixed.
Can someone please explain to me the advantages a fixed peg has over a folding peg --I just dont see it at the moment

A fixed peg on a modern sports bike will be very short. The ones I have on my race bike are about 3/4 foot width. They are also raised 100mm from standard. In otherwords, they were designed for my bike and have the proper clearance in both length and position.

If someones fitted aftermarket pegs that dont have the propper clearance, I'd question the sanity of it myself, but its really up to them if they want to ride with it. They just need to learn how to handle a bike that picks itself up on a corner as it will likely do. Some older model bikes have daft pegs fitted as standard.

I suspect many people here would have no idea what the FIM regulation is for footpeg fitment on race bikes. But in general they should be fixed, or if folded have a spring return. Fixed pegs must have a plastic ball end (8mm -16mm) dep on event (never noticed this bit before). In general the bike must be capable of 50 degree clearance before any part grounds. Cant remember what the ACU reg was - very similar from memory.

I would have thought the 50 degree clearance rule to be applied in most cases as being common sense. But its up to event organisers I guess.

[itchytrout]

MNZ rules say that the pegs must be folding type.

Loads of people tend to ignore this rule and marshalls dont mind.

Fixed are excellent for using to do rear suspension work rather than using beer crates or swingarm pivot point stands.

Fixed also help protect exhaust cans in an off to a degree.

[k14]

MNZ rules say that the pegs must be folding type.

You sure? Care to quote the reference to teh rule book?

All gp bikes (RS125's etc) come from the factory with solid footpegs. Alot of other bikes do too. I'd be pretty sure that some officials would come down on people if it was against the rules.

[Coyote]

I've heard folding in pegs can catch peoples feet in an event of a crash and crush the person's foot, is this possible?

[itchytrout]

You sure? Care to quote the reference to teh rule book?

All gp bikes (RS125's etc) come from the factory with solid footpegs. Alot of other bikes do too. I'd be pretty sure that some officials would come down on people if it was against the rules.

6-20 is the first mention of it, and I recall it is elsewhere as well.

Their are loads of rules not enforced - quickshifters are a no-no yet some top riders have them. Data acquisition is ruled out yet people have them. Wave disks/rotors are outlawed, yet quite a few bikes have them ..... I could go on. If you think the officials should actively manage to the letter of the law, you would be suprised to see how few bikes would be allowed to race, particularly the faster ones in F1/2 and 3.

Reality is that, as you point out, they cant enforce this particulalrly if the bikes come out as standard with the equipment. The intent is what they prefer to act on, and so long as the outcome of a race in not determined by the the alleged infringment, I think they will continue to be pragmatic in the interpretation.

I had asked an MNZ official specifically about the foot peg thing, as well as a few other technicalities where my bike does not fully comply. Short story - its not a problem so long as safety is not compromised.