Moped rider
Because they'd be a bit red-faced after a huge surge in road deaths from people trying to overtake and not being able to exceed 100kph, and ending up smashing into oncoming traffic. Is it that police are too stupid to realise that speeding isn't a black and white issue (i.e. the quicker you complete your overtaking the safer it is), or that they think we're too stupid to understand?Originally Posted by franco
Scooter boy
Phew! Thanks solar - I knew there was a good reason. I can sleep easy now...
Whorem Fore
Many Line Haul companies govern their trucks to 100kph
Mobile Oil Stain
Yeah good point Franco,I am sure that it will happen in time.
When I lived in OZ all the trucks that I dealt with had recording devices on board,They were hooked into a GPS system as well,The boss could see were and how the truck was being driven simply by siting down in front of a PC.
These things were put in place to monitor engine time and performace but you can see the potentual for other things.South OZ also thas Safty cameras
on main high ways that monitor your passing once and then again 100km later,Then you get a nice little letter from the man if youv'e been a bad boy, All in the name of safty of course.With the tech available now each car could be fited with a GPS and imobiliser,Wouldn't that be fun,you go 111km and your car stops then you get a fine just to rub it in.Sound like a George Orwell nitemare?.Well they are doing tests in the UK and France now.
I reckon the reason it isn't discussed more now is because it's to scary.
Whorem Fore
LOL - same system has just been presented to the Road Transport Association in NZ in October last year and some companies in NZ look likely to take this up. As it is - many owners of rigs who employ drivers run a similar black box that can be, when needed, pulled from the rig and the information downloaded to obtain the information.
Work? I want to go ride!
oh yes.. and did anyone mention it would root a good section of our nations economy? who's going to by a turboed WRX etc that can't go over 100kmhr? not me... I'll save my cash for a lounge suite and by a nice practical Dihatsu Pyzar.
*BING* there goes the entire aftermarket auto, performance, racing, importing and tuning industry. I bet that'd win them votes.
Whorem Fore
Interesing thing is that many young kids CAN'T get insurance in WRX's and the like. The only place that will insure in the National Car Club.......makes me wonder how they afford it....mind you, $200pw for the car finance, $19 per week for the car stereo HP, $12.57 per week for the wheel package HP etc etc.
For starters it should be mandatory for every vehicle on the road to be insured.....
Secondly - if they are serious about speeding - our fines are RIDICULOUS...too low to be a disincentive. Ramp them up if they wish to discourage speeding.
Thirdly - the law of diminishing returns applies here. They are wasting money - as with increasing vehicle registrations etc - you can't expect the toll to go down thru ticketing alone.
Forthly - the Government is too blame. To have a national motorway between your major metropolitan cities which is a 2 lane goat track with no centre median, no run off, no internal or external crash barriers, irregular road surfaces, transitions through rural towns, stock crossings, LEVEL crossing, etc - is asking for trouble.
Fifthly - NZ's mentality to driving....we are shockers on the road. Just having an ad that says - please don't speed or my daughter will die - is stupid. We have already given the gherkins the fucken license. Address the problem at the source - ie driver education.
AND - why the HELL would the government forgo such a lucrative source of revenue anyway?
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Last edited by SpankMe; 26th February 2004 at 22:43. Reason: To differentiate my screw up from Wkid's right on post.
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I agree with JR also - has anyone questioned how so many incompetant drivers are issued with licences each year.
It is more of a rite of passage whereby once u reach the legal driving age,you are entitled to become a bloody menace on the road.
Personally, I feel I can ride safer at 160km/h than most cagers at 80km//h, yet when do you see someone dickhead pulled over for following too close, failing to indicate or any number of INCOMPETANT things that cause accidents. Is the accident actually granting some of these idiots a licence in the first place.
The LTSA are a bunch of narrow minded bureaucrats pandering to political correctness - I had a huge debate with them when they tried to overregulate braided brake lines, even though the brake line specs were listed as up to DOT standards in the road traffic reg's 1976.
In fact, on a slightly different issue, the police have always had powers to require a noise test for modified vehicles - so all this BOY RACER legislation over noisy vehicles was always there, but NEVER regulated, therefore the government adopts new legislation, so they can say to the public " we have acted as per your concerns", but regulation is left for a few to be made examples of, and they hope that the general public will take notice and follow suit (a bit of media hype never goes astray either).
The exact same thing has happened with dog control laws....but Im starting to rambling now..................
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If they introduce downloadable vehicle info systems, how long will it take to have countermeasures available?
Weeks or months?
Lou
Soo-deep
Just watched that add and SCU now. Add kinda works for me as it makes me kinda feel bad... But what works even more on me is watching SCU. Then you get to find out more about the victim's lives and I think to myself "Na, I don't want to do that to someone".
Forum whore
Only a complete nimrod wants to do that to someone. The trouble is, short of banning all motorised transportation.......make that ALL transportation, someone, somewhere IS going to do it, willing or not.
Like all of life, its all about playing the percentages. Life is hazardous and fragile and always has been. Shit no one wants themselves or their loved ones to die or be maimed, but, inevitably, in a complex, intermingling society, it is going to happen. And continual bludgeoning of those who know how to maximise chances along with those who don't, will never be as productive as targeting, educating or training those who dont. But, thats too hard and complex - takes too much skill, too much money and resources - you gotta spend time and money to get a result instead of receive money to get a lesser result!
Whats that expression - "Lies, damn lies and statistics!
LTSA - fuckin dickheads!
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something is wrong here
There seems to be a huge misappropriation of funds and time into the whole LTSA system... When i got the R65 rego'd and vinned a couple of days back, they wanted a piece of paper from someone else, certifying that the brakes were up to scratch... they didnt test them at all, and i know this because when we got the bike home to check the ovality etc etc there was grease over the inside of the rear drum - a result of cleaning and relubing the splines a bit too much... seems they are not interested in how safe the bike is, but in how to cover their asses if there is a crash at anytime in the future.
The swingarm had loosened up in transportation for some reason, and there was slop in the whole rear wheel, which we noticed when the rear drum was being cleaned/measured. This all happened after the vin/cof was given, but before the rego could be processed... all wthout obviously looking at the bike at all. I imagine if there had been incorrectly adjusted steering head bearings that would have been passed by without a second thought at all.
NB: the bike is in good working order now and all joints/bolts have been rechecked and retorqued up. i think the problem was short swingarm pinch bolts, when they should have been long ones, but it seemed fine at trial and final assembly stages. Maybe it was just one of those things
Personally, I would like to see the driver licensing situation much more like that in Germany, where a certain number of hours must be logged with an instructor before u can get your license... this way people will be more likely to know how to drive/ride BEFORE they get out onto the roads
anyway... enough from me
~milky
Last edited by Milky; 26th February 2004 at 22:49. Reason: additions
Soo-deep
Like you said, no one really wants to do that but most of the time people don't realise or they are on denial about the aftermath of a crash resulting from speed. It may seem really obvious but sometimes it just takes one of them really out off it things to get to a person. eg. "if you speed, you are out to kill". To me, it made me think "holly shit, they might be on to something here"
And if this thing got to a few more people, thoes people will reduce their speed thus the chances of a crash resulting from speed will be reduced for thoes people and the people around them.
I think the add is effective on some people. (I am very tired and sleepy, if this didn't make sence, sorry. Off I go to sleep now).
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You're falling into the trap of listening to half the story. There's always other factors to these accidents, but the traffic nazis don't admit that.
If you know what you're doing and are careful doing it, there's no reason why you can't travel quickly without risking anyone's safety.
Half the of the rest of the world manages it.
Lou
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