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**Yokai** · 25th November 2005, 12:55

Originally Posted by Zed

You're right as usual Hitcher. I have often been at the forefront of these flame wars unfortunately and feel I must now make public apology for those I've offended, intentionally or not. Sorry.

I'm all for making KB a better place and will ensure I do my part towards that goal, which includes shutting my mouth and not taking things too seriously/personally anymore!

Zed

Heck, Zed, that's way above the call of duty... (unless you've been super nasty recently which I doubt)... I know that I've been on the receiving end of some of your wrath, and you mine, but even through all that I don't think that we've got into the realm of pure insults (intellectual back-biting yes, but pure insults? Hmmm ...)

Hitcher as per normal is once again the voice of reason. I like it here. I'd rather not see you go, Viffer.... I too have seen some rather startling activity recently, but seeing as I don't get as much time to post as per normal, I figured I was oversensitive.

Any chance of a "niceness" club?

**SPORK** · 25th November 2005, 13:12

Will someone hurry up and start Mr Hitcher a political party? He's got my vote next election day... (Hey, I'll actually be able to vote by then!)

**oldrider** · 25th November 2005, 13:13

KB seems to be going through some sort of identity crisis at the moment.
I have found this site a good place to communicate with other like minded people (motorcyclists) in lieu of there being many around here where I live.
Now I am beginning to meet those people at rallies, rides etc and enjoying the experience very much. I want that to continue so that I can identify with other KB'rs right throughout the country. I find it has the potential to be very rewarding.
I respect that there will always be those that I will not want to associate with but respect their right to be who they want to be as I hope they will respect mine.
I actually enjoy the wide diversity of subject matter raised in the forum right across the whole spectrum. Some of it is a bit raw, some of it a bit sensitive, some of it down right offensive but if it is meant with a modicum of mutual respect I don't really mind. To each his own.
I do enjoy the fast witted banter some of it is very cleaver. I think it will all iron out in the end these moments are healthy for the future of KB. Hopefully not at the expense of loosing valuable members. Cheers John.

**R1** · 25th November 2005, 13:26

I agree, KB is 99% crap, and I have helped contributed to it.....

But KB is like any other living thing it will evolve over time, and change, some will like it, and some will not, but thats life.....
It would be nice to go back to when bikes were cheaper to rego than cars, to when ya got a telling off for wheelieng the main road and not arrested, when gas was 80cents a litre etc etc, but the good old days are gone...........get over it,
change is good, and will happen if you like it or not...

**James Deuce** · 25th November 2005, 13:32

Originally Posted by R1Aaron

change is good, and will happen if you like it or not...

Not all change is good.

Changing from a sharing community to a bunch of foul-mouthed smacktards is not a positive change.

**R1** · 25th November 2005, 13:34

Originally Posted by Jim2

Not all change is good.

Changing from a sharing community to a bunch of foul-mouthed smacktards is not a positive change.

I'm sure to them its good. and they seem to be the majority, and we live in a democracy...dont we?

**Joni** · 25th November 2005, 13:41

Originally Posted by R1Aaron

and they seem to be the majority

Not sure if I agree there, I seem to notice a dozen or so names coming up over and over again... there are 3000 odd members, why should a few spoil a perfectly good place for the rest...:spudwhat:

**ManDownUnder** · 25th November 2005, 13:42

Originally Posted by Yokai

Any chance of a "niceness" club?

Na - but in that spirit I'll put my money where my mouth is - I'll provide the first round at the Avondale Cobb and Co tonight - the first beer is on me for all KBers present at 7:00pm.

18 Elm St Avondale - just by the racecourse (clicky the linky...)

MDU

**jrandom** · 25th November 2005, 13:44

I seem to recall this happening before. A couple of times. More or less annually.

I suppose Hitcher should receive some acclaim for his efforts here; all that is required for evil to triumph, etc, etc.

Personally, I think that if all people deemed by a quorum of myself, Hitcher and OMGWTFBBQ to be morons, twats, bury-me-in-a-Y-shaped-coffin slappers or motor-fingered blitherers with nothing pointful to contribute could be summarily ejected, everything would be fine.

Unfortunately, to do that, we'd have to convince SpankMe to hand over the keys to the hosting contract, and then find someone who could be arsed to administer it. So we probably won't get a round tuit.

In the meantime, though, one does hope that the abovementioned would-be ejectees will pick up on ways to improve their contributions. Part of the problem is, of course, that some of these folk are just as unpleasant in real life as they appear to be online. Not much one can do, barring turning on the showers and firing the ovens.

And in response to the suggestion of electing Hitcher, I should point out that that wouldn't really work.

What you should do is elect *me*, and then let Hitcher bring me a red box full of documents to sign every evening.

**Hitcher** · 25th November 2005, 13:52

Originally Posted by Fish

What you should do is elect *me*, and then let Hitcher bring me a red box full of documents to sign every evening.

Can I get to lead a bureaucratic "black ops" unit as well. Please?

**jrandom** · 25th November 2005, 13:54

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Can I get to lead a bureaucratic "black ops" unit as well. Please?

It wouldn't be 'black' if I knew about it, would it?

There might be leaks...

**_Gina_** · 25th November 2005, 14:21

I am sitting here wondering if I belong (in some way) to the group of people we are discussing. I know that sometimes I talk absolute rubbish, generally I join in with others. I am a pretty straight up person and would take note if I was deemed to not be fitting into the norm for whatever reason.

I think I am one of the lucky ones, I have technical aptitude and a partner who is qualified and I respect his advice and guidance, especially mechanically. Therefore I do not ask for advice through this forum and as there a wealth of other people who offer theirs I don't go there either.

What I will take from this is language use. I only use it in context, but I will be more mindfull from now on.

**Scorpygirl** · 25th November 2005, 14:25

Hi all

Well said Hitcher and others. As a newbie to Kiwibiker I am probably guilty of getting involved in too much of the banter. I hope that I have never offended anyone - if I have I humbly apologise!!

I am also becoming very discouraged with the foul language and disrespect for people. I enjoy getting out and meeting people on bikes and the friendships and support that are built up as a result. This is one reason I joined KB.

Respect to me is important as I have always been taught to treat others as you would have them treat you. Sometimes this isn't easy as we are all human and we all make mistakes.

However I think that one thing is very important - THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE!!

Enough said.. Sorry all.