Speeding and Dangerous Driving

[Lou Girardin]

Well, when you can't get a patrol to an 'offender on premises' or you just have to watch while some arseholes break into your car, or you follow a hit and run driver for 15 minutes only to be told that there are no patrols available. Then see three within 5 minutes of giving up. I'd say they're not doing their job.
A lot of MOT guys didn't become sworn Police, because they were worried about failing the Police exams. That would have put them out of a job, so they stayed as un-sworn Officers. But, there were also a handful who had an iffy history and weren't offered a job.
Lou

[Coldkiwi]

of course, judging by the media coverage at the moment, there's still a few cops out there that have iffy histories but have kept on trucking!

[What?]

of course, judging by the media coverage at the moment, there's still a few cops out there that have iffy histories but have kept on trucking!

And wonder how many of them were sneering at the NSW cops a couple of years back...

[RiderInBlack]

You know, I cann't stop feeling that we are lucky that we have a police force we can feel fee to bitch about. Fuck, just look at countries without an effective police force (or an over effective police force). Would we rather the Gastarpo (sorry spellings fucked) or Mad Max (think hard about this before you say yes).

They are just another bunch of inadequite humans, doing the best they can with the rules, regs and money handed down to them by the Govt (who we elected). Sure they cock-up and can be a rightous pain in the butt (yah, I've had my share of tickets). Sure they abuse they power, but think hard about what the alternatives are before you wish for them. Like guns? Try speeding in the States. Or closer to home try speeding in Victoria, Aussie.

As I say, FUCK WE ARE SO FUCKEN LUCKY.

[Lou Girardin]

We are closer to Victoria than you think, and getting closer. Just look at the LTSA wish list.
Lou

[MikeL]

Yes, we are lucky that we are free to complain about our police. And do you think that there is nobody in the corridors of power that would like to take that freedom away from us? Not all at once, of course... that would be too blatant. Just little by little. A "Police Complaints Authority" would be a good place to start.
And do you think that by making excuses for their inadequacy, cock-ups and abuse of power we will earn such gratitude that they will start to restore our freedoms?

[dangerous]

You ALL have good points of view, its been good reading But I have to say that Lou has a good point......The other day a mate had his house broken into and as he came home and cought the little buggers inside he rang the cops and yessssss.... they said "we have no available patrols in the area at the moment" 'phtttttt crap' so they watched the shits jump the back fence and disapair down the railway line.
Now the other day I watched a laser gun speed trap being used from work, it took 5 patrol cars and 8 thats 8 cops to run 1 speed trap :sneaky2: Go figger.... well its easy realy they make heaps with the laser and nothing catching thiefs

[Two Smoker]

The other day a mate had his house broken into and as he came home and cought the little buggers inside he rang the cops and yessssss.... they said "we have no available patrols in the area at the moment" 'phtttttt crap' so they watched the shits jump the back fence and disapair down the railway line.

Well you could always do the trick of saying there is armed people in your backyard. See how fast and how many cop cars come then????? lol.

[Zed]

Well you could always do the trick of saying there is armed people in your backyard. See how fast and how many cop cars come then????? lol.

The problem with lying to the police though is that they will turn around and charge you!

[Two Smoker]

The problem with lying to the police though is that they will turn around and charge you!

Yep, and i definately dont lie to them, for instance..... "what speed do you think you were doing back there?" i reply with about 135 and say i was going a bit quick, he gives me the ticket and thts the end of it.

But you could ring them first and say there are people breaking into your house, and when the reply with "Sorry there are no IC cars available...." Hang up ring back and then try the armed thing. Because they were lying to you in the first place lol. Therefore they are screwed with charging you with false information....

[Lou Girardin]

All this kind of proves a point. No matter what social group you belong to, there are always many stories like this. If the Police headquarters had a clue they should be very worried. Once they lose public support, it'll take years to get it back. Look at New York and NSW, for example.
Lou

[Marmoot]

Do you really believe that they no longer protect society??

They do, but with a highly skewed priorities.
If they can put 3 patrol cars just to check speed in Hobson street but took TWO WHOLE F**KIN DAYS to turn up at my house on my report of burglary (a few days ago), then don't blame me if I say it's all about the friggin government money!
What's the 111 Police for, then? Do they really like *555 better than 111 calls?



(the fella that turned up to my place was a nice git, tho. I feel sorry for him to lose precious speed-check time and had to do all the paperworks).

[RiderInBlack]

And do you think that by making excuses for their inadequacy, cock-ups and abuse of power we will earn such gratitude that they will start to restore our freedoms?

No I don't, but at least we still have the right to complain (which we should still do).
My landlord in Tuaranga had some police come to his place, just to tell him that his daugter was late for ballet! His ex is conected to the police and had resently lost a case against him (long story). Complaining would have caused more problems. They would have found an other way of getting at him (as any "gang" would). If that is not abuse of power or police harassement, I don't know what is.
I was just committing that we are very lucky in comparisment (fuck, I need a spell checker). In places in Africa they would have just shot him and nobody would have done anything about it.

[SPman]

I was just commenting that we are very lucky in comparison (fuck, I need a spell checker)(done). In places in Africa they would have just shot him and nobody would have done anything about it.

Of course we are lucky , in comparison. But the point is, we arent living in Africa, or anywhere else. We are in NZ and most people in NZ expect certain standards and levels of competence from their Government agencies, commensurate with their expectations of what a civilised life in this country should be like. If they perceive them to be "not up to scratch", it is perfectly reasonable to point out the shortcomings and expect things to be improved.

Its either that, or a bumper sticker I quite liked
"My Insurance is by Smith & Wesson!" ..........tempting sometimes

[aff-man]

Getting back to the origioal post it makes you think how road aware police really are. I was sitting on motorway due to some accident when a police car came down the emergency lane at like 40-50 km/h. Now missing a car by like 30cm is on thing but to have have them do that to with no siren on , on a bike, was a little off putting. Another mr plod decided to put his lights on full when he was right up my arse which scared the bejeezus out of me and then, due to me being in one of those give way slip lanes at a set of lights, as i start to pull over he screams passed me in the slip lane only to slow again at the next set of lights and then "race" off at about 60 - 70 km/h. Now although these might sound of little consiquence i have seen so much worse that evertime i haer a siren or see lights i look around nervousley.