Speeding and Dangerous Driving

**What?** · 28th February 2004, 13:34

Mrs What? and I went to town this morning in the green submarine (Subaru in the rain, OK?). Following a cop who spots a lad doing 123K coming up the hill. Cop slams on the anchors, pulls a U-turn, turns on his indicator (1/2 way through the maneouver) then his flashers. I friggin near hit him.
So, I (safely) pull a U and go back to said copper who is busy writing a ticket to Mr 123KpH andd ask him for his identity number.
Monday morning I am going to lay a complaint of Dangerous driving against him. I know it won't go far, but I need to do it. Hopefully a few more may do the same. Might write a letter to the paper as well...

**Hitcher** · 28th February 2004, 13:38

Good luck!

**Lou Girardin** · 28th February 2004, 14:18

Originally Posted by What?

Mrs What? and I went to town this morning in the green submarine (Subaru in the rain, OK?). Following a cop who spots a lad doing 123K coming up the hill. Cop slams on the anchors, pulls a U-turn, turns on his indicator (1/2 way through the maneouver) then his flashers. I friggin near hit him.
So, I (safely) pull a U and go back to said copper who is busy writing a ticket to Mr 123KpH andd ask him for his identity number.
Monday morning I am going to lay a complaint of Dangerous driving against him. I know it won't go far, but I need to do it. Hopefully a few more may do the same. Might write a letter to the paper as well...

Bloody good on you. A female cop did the same in the Waikato a couple of years ago, she got T - boned though.
If they don't charge him, go to the media. With all the shit going on about the Police these days, they'll be onto it like rabid dogs.
Lou

**wkid_one** · 28th February 2004, 14:20

Sam thing happened to a girl I worked with at AMP. She was riding down the motorway in Sydney and a police emergency vehicle that had attended a breakdown - nose to tail to a u'turn in front of her on her bike. She clipped the back of it - broke her leg, pelvis, collarbone, ruptured internal organs and spent 8 months in hospital

**MikeL** · 28th February 2004, 14:30

Well done. Will be interested to hear whether, assuming the cop in question noted down your number plate as you were leaving, you subsequently notice an increase in enforcement activity near where you live.
Or were you clever enough to disguise the reason for your enquiry?

MD · 28th February 2004, 16:15

Do it. The pricks will risk other peoples lives and limbs in order to issue a ticket to worship their quota God. Keep us all posted on the outcome
Mark D

**spudchucka** · 29th February 2004, 09:23

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Bloody good on you. A female cop did the same in the Waikato a couple of years ago, she got T - boned though.
If they don't charge him, go to the media. With all the shit going on about the Police these days, they'll be onto it like rabid dogs.
Lou

You realy do have a problem with old Mr Plod don't you Lou. I agree that the driver should be reported but you seem to have a passion for highlighting fault in the police. Me wonders why???????

**MikeL** · 29th February 2004, 11:23

Originally Posted by spudchucka

You realy do have a problem with old Mr Plod don't you Lou. I agree that the driver should be reported but you seem to have a passion for highlighting fault in the police. Me wonders why???????

Perhaps it's because they are reluctant to admit to any fault themselves. Lou's passion might be a desire to reveal injustices and right wrongs. Strange that "accountability" - such a buzz-word these days - doesn't seem to have the same meaning in the police force.

**Lou Girardin** · 29th February 2004, 15:40

I guess we all have a pet peeve and that's mine.
As I've said before though, I hate what the Police have turned into. They used to be about protecting society, not the persecution of one section in the name of revenue.
Lou

**What?** · 29th February 2004, 19:10

Originally Posted by MikeL

...subsequently notice an increase in enforcement activity near where you live.

Struth, Mike, I don't know if that is possible. I live on the Kaimai (SH29). Maybe they could put an armed gaurd on my gate???
Anyway, he didn't ask why I wanted his id number. I think the smug prick knew damned well why I wanted it. The attitude seemed to be "I am a cop - I will get away with it".
Stuff 'em. I will copy my complaint to my MP and to the minister of the police farce.

**spudchucka** · 1st March 2004, 09:04

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

I guess we all have a pet peeve and that's mine.
As I've said before though, I hate what the Police have turned into. They used to be about protecting society, not the persecution of one section in the name of revenue.
Lou

Do you really believe that they no longer protect society??

Gang members, thieves, burglars, boy racers all feel they are unfairly targeted by police. They are all minority groups that attract attention because of certain behaviours that they choose to engage in. Speeding drivers, dangerous drivers, people who ride motorcycles are also minority groups. The behaviour that they choose to engage in is what attracts the attention not what they drive / ride or any thing else about the person, it's the behaviour that is targeted.

As for revenue, well it's the tool that the Govt give the police to target undesireable driving behaviour, so take your beef up with thoose idiots. 99.9% of cops joined the job because they want to make a difference to our society. Sure there are some idiots in the job and they should be identified and dealt with.

But yor attitude of the whole police department is full of power hungry little revenue gatherers is just stupid.

Your time in the MOT would surely have shown your the result of speed gone wrong. How many times have you had to clean up a dead body in the local morgue, trying to make it semi presentable for the grieving relatives? Thats the reality of speeding for most cops and thats why speed is targeted. The revenue thing is an issue to take up with the Govt, not the cops.

**SPman** · 1st March 2004, 09:41

Originally Posted by spudchucka

...... The revenue thing is an issue to take up with the Govt, not the cops.

Quite True - but the cops are the instrument of the government, and how they pursue the policy is what affects society. From the head fella down to the cop on patrol.

Where societies/countries/communities are involved, it has been established, internationally, that following orders is not a defence!

**Jackrat** · 1st March 2004, 09:50

Hmmm,the voise of reason.
Well unfortunatly most people never look far past their own self interest.
We bikers certainly are no different in that respect huh.
As to Lou's beaf with the cops,Well as I remember it the old MOT could be and offten were complete assholes.I also remember a lot of them didn't make the grade when the change over came about.What was the old saying,Can't get into the cops,Become an MOT officer!!
Bunch of little Hitlers some of them were.
But back to the point,If somebody feels a cop has messed up,and their not just walking their dislike,then yeah make a complaint.Just be sure you are doing it for the right reason.

**Coldkiwi** · 1st March 2004, 11:15

good on ya lou. If any of us did that in front of a cop, you can bet your backside we'd get pulled over and have the book thrown at us.. and rightfully os because its dangerous driving. Why should those in charge of keeping us safe be allowed to blatantly endanger us without fear of justice??

make em pay