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No guns? The guy had killed one guy and severely injured another. If he was high on whatever then how do you stop him? I'd wager he'd not have let his knife gp if he were netted. Flailing around with a knife? Hmmm not good. Whatever means used to stop and/or control a subject there are going to be de3tractors and supporters. Be thankful in this case he was stopped. Lunchtime, lots of people out, nutcase with a knife, could have been a lot worse.
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Man, you are too square.
When I heard about this, I thought it sounded a bit odd.Originally Posted by scumdog
The way I read the article in the Herald, the cops gave a warning, he kept coming, then they fired.
So far, so good.
Then, he kept coming, and was tackled by the passing member of the public/hero.
It struck me that maybe the reason the cops didn't keep shooting until he fell over is because the have-a-go hero was blocking their shot.
Don't get me wrong, the guys got some balls making the tackle, but if I were in that situation, I'd have preferred to stay out of the way and let the cops keep shooting.
Just the way I read it, I could be completely wrong.
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9mm is crap. Plain and simple. Why do you think the FBI went to 10mm?
If they had any sense at all the'd go back to .45ACP - like the US are planning to do with the special forces...
Next point. WHY were there 3 armed cops conveniently in Henderson?
If this nutter walked into the shop and started this, then the cops would not have enough time to get to that location so quickly (yes, I know the cop shop is just up the road, but they cannot access firearms that quickly) also coupled with the fact there was an absence of body armour - I suspect we had some armed cops wandering around...
Next point. If we have armed cops wandering around, then this means it is now too dangerous for them - which also means it is too dangerous for the average person in the street, proof has come from this incident with the death of the innocent bystander.
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Semi-auto = cut in half?
Not exactly...
Semi = Pull trigger, BANG, pull trigger, BANG, and so on and so forth...
Aargh, photos!
I believe Seargents are allowed to carry pistols in the boot of their patrol. I could be wrong though.
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where did the 3 bullets hit him thoe ? no matter wot cal. of gun 3 bullets is alot to take...
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Aargh, photos!
It may be, but 9mm is fuck all.
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Loud and Uncouth
We don't use FMJ sunshine!!
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9mm is generally a great round, works perfectly when put in the right place. The shotgun bean bags work well at disarming people
Loud and Uncouth
Eff the long baton - you have to get too near to him and if things go wrong? (like he chases and stabs somebody else while you're trying to get in with the baton?)
Guns?
Only a loser brings a knife to a gun fight!!
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Cops aren't allowed to shoot to kill. Otherwise a 9mm carbine would do the trick - easier to hit the head/neck.
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it isn't that bad... could have been a .22 peashooter
Anyways I think we are following a trend from europe. 9mm browning pistol ammo is popular because it is the same stuff that the mp5 and mp5k takes ain't it? One ammo to rule them all.
I know the mp5 is a common gun to see in the hands of the cops / C14 in northern ireland and I've also seen a few at hethro...
Anyways it isn't the bullet size that's the killer. E=(half)MV^2 .. double the velocity you quadruple the energy the bullet has. I hear really great reviews about a .257*7mm bullet that goes at 4,060 feet per second. That's 1237 m/s for us metric types. THAT is stopping power for you.
Loud and Uncouth
Used a .40cal MP5, great on three-shot burst mode but a bit of a handful on full auto. Still, bloody comforting to know that it's launching a big fat slug though!
And yeah 4000+fps in 257 is going to hurt!!
Still prefer a fat slug well aimed. (Maybe that's why I ride a Harley!!)
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its a 9mm wad cutter projectile in those rounds isn't it ?
the cops fired 5 shots only 3 hit & it took a big samoan to flatten the prick! at that range the projectile would still have been building up impact velocity.
FMJ isn't any good on soft tissue close up, just goes straight through. you need wad cutters (small hole in bloody big hole out)
bring in riot guns with buck shot! that will stop the psycho dicks! the bastards have more rights than the victims! the bloody nancy do gooders made sure of that
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