Shotguns?

[spudchucka]

hmmm gyroscopic progression or whatevery would mean the rounds would drift in different directions if thats what you mean?

I'm guessing that spinning must create some degree of torque on the round, too much or too little may cause deviation in flight???

[spudchucka]

That only works with flushing toilets. Lol!!!

Maybe I should build a rifled spud gun and start experimenting!!

[Sniper]

I'm guessing that spinning must create some degree of torque on the round, too much or too little may cause deviation in flight???

Clever, so close to the exact answer

[Xtat1k]

i believe the its the M15A4 the police are using now, they bought 880 of them i think and spent 3million dollars on the damn things. now we got decent guns we just need ppl to shot them right hehehe. much better than the old remmington bolt actions. heres the M15A4: http://armalite.com/sales/catalog/ri...a4_carbine.htm but the nz police are using a 5 shot mag i believe... maybe a 10. 10's the legal limit anyways.

[ManDownUnder]

Clever, so close to the exact answer

I'm guessing there is a corresponding torque reaction in the rifle itself, thereby introducing muzzle movement potentially putting the bullet off track to start with...

Changing the twist from LH to RH (would reverse the torqe reaction in the rifle itself...)

or am I spouting crap again?

[N4CR]

Clever, so close to the exact answer

The higher the knitec energy in the round then the more damage it does as well... so if you spun it uber fast then it would penetrate more compared to a slow spinning round - as the energy needed to be dissapated on impact increases with more Ek from the spin as well as the bullet velocity towards the target. edit: I'm Guessing that is one aspect of it, but different directions of rifling.. who knows. Counteracting cartridge ejection torque?

[spudchucka]

i believe the its the M15A4 the police are using now, they bought 880 of them i think and spent 3million dollars on the damn things. now we got decent guns we just need ppl to shot them right hehehe. much better than the old remmington bolt actions. heres the M15A4: http://armalite.com/sales/catalog/ri...a4_carbine.htm but the nz police are using a 5 shot mag i believe... maybe a 10. 10's the legal limit anyways.

Post number 51 of this thread has this link to the Bushmaster M4A3.

http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/C...c-c15rm4ft.asp

Which is the weapon currently replacing the Remmingtons.

The Remmington has a 5 shot mag, the Bushmaster has a 20 round capacity.

The weapon in the link says 10 rounds, top loading, the ones the cops are getting are probably just a law enforcement version of the same weapon, hence the higher magazine capacity.

http://www.bushmaster.com/le/

That looks more like it.

As does this one.

http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/w...wa3f14m4iz.asp

[Sniper]

Its a very very very logical answer. You guys are giving me technical answers.....

[Lou Girardin]

Maybe I should build a rifled spud gun and start experimenting!!

For shooting relatives?

[spudchucka]

For shooting relatives?

Billy Bob already done fell in the gator pool. There aint nobody else left to be shooting or feuding with cept them pesky Girardin's!

[ManDownUnder]

Billy Bob already done fell in the gator pool. There aint nobody else left to be shooting or feuding with cept them pesky Girardin's!

paw - get me mar gun I gots me some shootin' ta do

[Sniper]

paw - get me mar gun I gots me some shootin' ta do

YeeeeeHaw, them damn cridders arr on da stoop 'gain

"Hitcher is going to die when he see's this thread

[scumdog]

You are quite right, memory plays tricks when you're aged.

I hope like hell you're a shitload older than me after making THAT statement!!!!

[Macktheknife]

Ah yes, the archers paradox..
"Would I have been better off choosing a gun....?"

ROFLMAO thats funny!

[Macktheknife]

When all is said and done though folks I say "Good on the cops", seriously. I have had the experience of being on the receiving end of some nutcases in my time, and also of having the weapons to deal with said nutcases. I can assure you that it is a very different thing when you are 'johnny on the spot' than calmly debating it after the fact.

Myself I would always be shooting to kill, better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6 in my opinion.

I am not aware of any official policy in the NZ police of 'not shooting to kill' any here qualified to correct me? Spudchucka or similar currently in the job? seems a little silly to try not to kill them if you ask me, kinda like using a chainsaw like a bat, you can do it but its not designed to do it well. lol