Kids and men on planes.

[Marmoot]

It's a proud tradition to take kids to be terrified by a large red-clad man who towers over them and asks Have you been good?

it's a hell lot better than if he towers over them and says Let's get physical!

I'd go like ->

[Macktheknife]

grrrr hmmmpf arrghhh

I'm so fucken pissed off at this ignorant PC bullshit that words fail me.

Obviously you just need a little time out, perhaps we should move you to another seat by yourself while you work out your anger issues in a mutually safe environment? lol :spudflip: :spudflip:

[Macktheknife]

You're at a playground and a little girl comes to you scared - she needs to pee and she's about to wet her pants. The toilets are right there and all you have to do is walk her over and stand by the door.

Do you?
Do you feel the eyes of the world watching you as you you do it?
Why?

What if it was a little boy?
Would you go into the toilet and help him if needed?

FARK NO!!!!!!!!!!!
NEVER in a million years, would I do that, I would call out loudly to anyone in the vicinity that this child needs a womans attention please. Completely ignoring the fact that its womens' work anyway.... I would never want to be accused of that kind of behaviour, notice I say accused, because thats all it takes today boys and girls. (bad choice of words, sorry)
Seriously though, would you like to be identified as 'Police are looking to interview a man who was seen escorting a child into the toilet crying?' NO THANKS!

[Marmoot]

FARK NO!!!!!!!!!!!
NEVER in a million years, would I do that, I would call out loudly to anyone in the vicinity that this child needs a womans attention please. Completely ignoring the fact that its womens' work anyway.... I would never want to be accused of that kind of behaviour, notice I say accused, because thats all it takes today boys and girls. (bad choice of words, sorry)
Seriously though, would you like to be identified as 'Police are looking to interview a man who was seen escorting a child into the toilet crying?' NO THANKS!

It's true. It is SICK and SAD, but it is true.

When I go out to public place and where there happen to be a very cute 5 year olds, I sometimes say to my missus "how lovely, I hope ours will be like that"
But I unconciously always try not to stare/look at that little thing too much for fear the parrents will cry wolf.

This is what our society has implanted in our minds. Sad but True.

[KATWYN]

When I go out to public place and where there happen to be a very cute 5 year olds, I sometimes say to my missus "how lovely, I hope ours will be like that"
But I unconciously always try not to stare/look at that little thing too much for fear the parrents will cry wolf.

.

My goodness. Is this really how our societies men are feeling? That being so, there is no hope for humanity. It has been ruined to the point of no return.

[ManDownUnder]

My goodness. Is this really how our societies men are feeling? That being so, there is no hope for humanity. It has been ruined to the point of no return.

Actually yes it IS how a lot of men are feeling.

And it's EXACTLY why I played tag with the kids at the school last week. I was the only grown up in the game (plenty of others around) and the kids mobbed me.

I tickled them and picked them up and generally "rough housed" them (they were a really fun mob of about 25 5 and 6 year olds). Bugger the establishment.

Sure - get the kiddie fiddlers and chop their balls off - I have no qualms with that. But hell - don't starve the kids, or the men, of the pleasure of good fun games. I loved it - they did too and it was a damned sight healthier than sitting in front of a bloody X-Box...

I'll do it again next year too... I promise you that!

[Marmoot]

I tickled them and picked them up and generally "rough housed" them

You touched them?!?!?! YOU TOUCHED THEM!!!!!
HANG HIM DRY!

That's the voices keep ringing in my head. Call me paranoid, but I also have insurance on my bike though I don't intend to crash.

[Lou Girardin]

My goodness. Is this really how our societies men are feeling? That being so, there is no hope for humanity. It has been ruined to the point of no return.

And then, just to rub salt in the wound, the same people bleat about the "lack of male role models".

[Swoop]

And then, just to rub salt in the wound, the same people bleat about the "lack of male role models".

Simply look at the ratio of male/female primary school teachers!!!!
There is stuff all of them out there, and the kids notice this as well.

[Wolf]

I know a guy, separated, shared access to his daughter, got really worried because somone saw that his daughter was in his bed - she had got up in the middle of the night and climbed into bed with him (which is what all kids do, even more so kids that are feeling insecure because mummy and daddy have split up and have even more reason to feel the need to feel the reassuring presence of a parent).

He was terrified that his wife would hear of it and be able to use it as "evidence" that he was molesting his daughter to get his access cut.

Suspicion and accusation are "proof" and you are guilty until proven innocent - it used to be like that in other times too, when people were found "guilty" of "heresy" and "witchcraft" and burned to death, hanged or tortured or killed to prove their innocence - all on the say-so of a spiteful person. And then there was the House UnAmerican Activities Committee and Senator McCarthy's reign of terror when to be accused of "communism" saw you arrested, imprisoned and interrogated and if they could find one "dodgy" thing about you (e.g. homosexuality) then that was all it took to ruin your life (if being arrested and interrogated and deemed suspicious hadn't ruined it already.)

Humankind has been "damned" for a long time, KATWYN, but somehow we survive, most of the witchburners have gone (there are still a few but they no longer hold political sway and no longer can legally torture and burn people), McCarthy is gone and with him most of the paranoid "Kill a Commy for Mommy" loonies. Eventually, the PC stupidity will mostly die out as saner heads prevail and people won't have reason to fear. The PC mob with dwindle to a couple of frothing lunatics ranting to themselves and will lose the support of the law that they currently enjoy.

Then they'll be replaced by some other bunch of crackpots arresting people for painting their houses blue or something equally ludicrous.

[Lou Girardin]

This is part of the fall-out from the "kids never lie about molestation" school of thought that helped nail Peter Ellis.

[Hitcher]

This is part of the fall-out from the "kids never lie about molestation" school of thought that helped nail Peter Ellis.

...But no other Christchurch creche worker. Why this guy hasn't received a pardon by now is beyond me.

[Lou Girardin]

...But no other Christchurch creche worker. Why this guy hasn't received a pardon by now is beyond me.

Too much loss of face among the establishment.

[Swoop]

Then they'll be replaced by some other bunch of crackpots arresting people for painting their houses blue or something equally ludicrous.

Oh fuck.
Races off to the paint shop...

[Skyryder]

Too much loss of face among the establishment.

Not too mention all the dollars.

I know people who used Ellis as a baby sitter. One mother had a 'phobia' about fire that was caused when she was nearly burnt to death as a little girl. She was amazed one night when her little girl asked why 'Mummy' was afraid of fire. Were talking about a four year old (at the time) who had no idea of her mothers phobia. Seems Ellis said something about if she told about 'their secret' her mummy would burn. As a result Ellis never baby sat for this couple again. About six months after this the scandal erupted. Parent to this day have no idea what the secret was.

Ellis innocent? Perhaps, but this guy was playing mind games with kids for whatever reason.

Skyryder