Kids and men on planes.

[SpankMe]

Has there actually ever been any incidents of guys messing with kids sitting next to them in a crowed plane for these guys to base their policy on?

[ducatilover]

Has there actually ever been any incidents of guys messing with kids sitting next to them in a crowed plane for these guys to base their policy on?

doubt it, maybe some man looked at a little girl who farted?

[ManDownUnder]

Has there actually ever been any incidents of guys messing with kids sitting next to them in a crowed plane for these guys to base their policy on?

If not - I'd guess they could say the policy works...?!?

Yeah - I do PR (of sorts) for a living - does it show?

[Karma]

Has there actually ever been any incidents of guys messing with kids sitting next to them in a crowed plane for these guys to base their policy on?

It's gotta be terrorism... the guys that flew the planes on 9/11 were all men, and therefore we're all evil by assosiation. (sp)

[idb]

It's gotta be terrorism... the guys that flew the planes on 9/11 were all men, and therefore we're all evil by assosiation. (sp)

In that case we should be prevented from sitting next to the pilots - not children...............

[Karma]

I like children. Properly cooked

[Brett]

I must say that i see your point of view kellyg, but my opinion lies very much in line with Wolf. It is the thin edge of the wedge isnt it. How long until these pricks take the next step and the next while we sit back and say that it is for the greater good. I am sorry to those liberal shits, but i have too much to one day teach my kids and family, and kids around me in general to let some office dicks tell me how to act and behave.
Hell, at this rate, in 10 years time you will need someones permission just to tuck your kids in bed at night cause you might be a fiddling daddy.
I wish it weren't like this, and the good of the kids came first, but it doesnt, because the long term effect on the children would still be bad.
If the child had a solid and trusting relationship with an adult, sometimes a male is best, then chances are that as soon as untoward behavious starts from anybody, that child would feel more comfortable telling someone.
This will also help these sort of people know that they WILL get caught out.
Idealogical?? Probably. The minimum i ask is that i get the chance to interact with kids the normal way, not some fucked up PC way.

[Jantar]

Which comment? I don't quite understand how you inferred from anything I wrote that I am suggesting that molesters should not be stopped. My point was that there is a type of double standard here. The same middle-aged white male who today is insulted by being asked to move may tomorrow be a concerned father sending his child off unaccompanied. If the airline staff were to ask him whether he is happy for his child to sit next to a strange man, or whether he would prefer them to make "more appropriate" seating arrangements, what do you think his answer would be?

When my children were younger, I often sent them unaccompanied on flights, and have never had any reason to question who they may be sitting next to. My daughter flew so often she was beginning to know the air hostesses by name.

When a child is on a flight that is so full that he/she can't have an empty seat beside them, then there are obviously so many people around that nothing could possibly happen anyway.

[Wolf]

Hell, at this rate, in 10 years time you will need someones permission just to tuck your kids in bed at night cause you might be a fiddling daddy.

I know some blokes who won't change their daughters' nappies lest some bugger think they're molesting them..

For FUCK'S Sake!

When you get fathers terrified to look after their kids' sanitary requirements, something is wrong with the messages that are being put out.

Pretty soon we'll have an 0800 line so that nosey neighbours can peer in through your window and dob you in because your son or daughter has woken up in the middle of the night and climbed into bed with you or and people could dob in their neighbours for "sexually molesting" their children by wiping the shit and urine off their privates several times a day.

Meanwhile, the prisons keep releasing child molesters that were found guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

When the innocent fear false accusation and the convicted walk free after serving only a fraction of the ridiculously short sentences they receive (in a special segregated wing of the prison so the other crims can't dispense "Natural Justice" and where they can swap notes on the kids they've molested) the "justice" system has failed us.

[ManDownUnder]

Thinking about this whole thing, the solution seems (to me) to be relatively straight forward...

Simply do what's right. Look after the kids, give them a hug, tuck them in, change a nappy... whatever you should do. We (guys) need to stop tiptoing around in fear of the consequences, and do it anyway. In doing that it resumes being/becomes "normal" and things will be as they should be.

[idb]

Thinking about this whole thing, the solution seems (to me) to be relatively straight forward...

Simply do what's right. Look after the kids, give them a hug, tuck them in, change a nappy... whatever you should do. We (guys) need to stop tiptoing around in fear of the consequences, and do it anyway. In doing that it resumes being/becomes "normal" and things will be as they should be.

Until the revival of Repressed Memory Syndrome or whatever witchcraft replaces it.

[Pixie]

See here

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3495794a11,00.html

Who would want to sit next to a whinging, snotty nosed kid for 15 hours? This policy works in the mans favour as far as I can tell. Maybe it should be extended to bus and train services too, including commuter services. I think it's a great policy!

Apply it to life in general.
I liked it in the old days ,when children were beaten and not heard.

[tracyprier]

Thinking about this whole thing, the solution seems (to me) to be relatively straight forward...

Simply do what's right. Look after the kids, give them a hug, tuck them in, change a nappy... whatever you should do. We (guys) need to stop tiptoing around in fear of the consequences, and do it anyway. In doing that it resumes being/becomes "normal" and things will be as they should be.

I like the cut of your jib MDU

Absolutely, just ignore all of this shit, hell I've been doing it for years. Don't let a bunch of damp-eyed nancy-boys and men-hating, hairy-legged dykes in any way affect the way we do things. That way they have no power.

It's by taking notice of all this PC nonsense that we give it legitimacy.

[Bartman10]

Here's some more from the PC brigade!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3505358a11,00.html

[Lou Girardin]

Who's making these "rules" and who the hell says you have to obey them.
What happened to the good old "if you don't like how I do it, you can fuck off"?