Chicken or Egg? Which one came first?

**Marmoot** · 5th December 2005, 16:00

Yeah, similar topic but not about the chickens this time...

Ok, Who else is tired of police not turning up for a crime???
I DO!
I mean, for God's sake, if I were a burglar and I know police don't even turn up to the crime scene then I wouldn't feel afraid of getting caught would I????
I would simply go about and do more burglaries, knowing they wouldn't even lift a finger to try to find me.

Yeah, I got my house burgled last Saturday, as some of youse know. I called the 111 straightaway in distress, and was told (in exact quote) "sir, being upset wouldn't help the situation now would it? I cannot help you if you don't talk like a human being" and when I queried him he only said "well, we didn't do the crime, you'll have to talk nicely to me"
(!!!! wtf??!?! That was a direct quote! should I literally be on my knees begging them for coming???)
Ok, I think I'll tell him "too bad, crying wouldn't help" when his father gets killed coz "I am not the one that killed him"
Right now it's been about 45 hours after the incident. Hardly a record considering the last time (1 year ago) it took them more than 72 hours to show up and fingerprint the broken window (yheah, the prints were all gone. They should've been sued for being accomplice in the crime).

I am fucken sick and tired of this society (see first paragraph above) where crimes don't get resolved, and where crimes get more abound because they don't even get investigated.
I know me alone would not change anything. But I am sure there are thousands others with similar case like mine. IT IS TIME FOR US TO UNITE AND SPEAK UP FOR FUTURE'S SAKE!!!

WHO IS WITH ME?

**Eurodave** · 5th December 2005, 16:04

I hear ya dude, the f*&kin cops need to stop concentrating on giving out fines for petty traffic violations & START CATCHING THE BAD GUYS cause isnt that what we pay them to do?????

**Marmoot** · 5th December 2005, 16:14

I want to see if we can get together enough voice so we can speak up and end this mockery of law for now
We should organize a petition or something with thousands of signatures. I know there are thousands of you out there. Speak up.
If you stay quiet, it will happen again and again. To you, the ones that you love, and everybody else. Let's end this!

**Lou Girardin** · 5th December 2005, 16:23

It's simple economics really, how much is the Govt going to get by catching and jailing a burglar?

**mstriumph** · 5th December 2005, 16:28

1. The cop that spoke to you on the phone needs to get his knickers out of a knot, realise that someone who has just been robbed is going to be upset and angry and that it's not personally directed against HIM - end of story. Report him - he obviously needs more training and you could save other victims the chore of having to deal with his itsy bitsy hurt feelings/ego.

2. If they don't turn up within a reasonable period I would think you are owed an explaination .......... if it turns out to be a matter of ROUTINE that they are tardy for this sort of offence - or that they have it prioritized somewhere below parking offences and their lunchbreak then mebbe that's the time to start a petition ...

3. Really sorry to hear what's happened to you - understandable that you are upset .... you don't deserve to have things made worse by obnoxious idiots at the other end of a phone line. Hope things improve.

**heavenly.talker** · 5th December 2005, 16:32

Response time is not the people on the beat's fault. They are overworked and under resourced. So yes, a petition that gives them support might be a good idea :-)

**Beemer** · 5th December 2005, 16:46

If you rang 111 for a burglary then you probably got the response you deserved - unless the burglar was still at the scene, it's not exactly what 111 is for. And it probably wasn't a cop who took your call, it would be an emergency operator. If you've ever worked in a call centre, you'd understand why they tried to get you to calm down. There is no way you can do anything until the person calms down enough to speak clearly and you can work out what the problem is.

And he was right - HE didn't burgle your house so it's no point getting on his case. I used to love the customers who called when I worked for a power company - like it was MY fault their power had been cut off because they didn't pay their bill on time?

Don't you read the newspapers? They are always going on about WHAT 111 is for - EMERGENCIES - not burglaries after the bad guys have left, not cats up trees, not things that can be dealt with by calling the local station.

**MikeL** · 5th December 2005, 17:19

Commiserations, Marmoot.
My story, however, is a bit different.

On Sunday my wife and I were sitting out in the garden enjoying a pre-dinner drink. A guy appeared around the corner of the house, called out to us "I'm looking for a puppy - neighbour said he ran onto your property." We said no, he disappeared. Some time later we found two digital cameras missing from the house. Called the police, got put through straight away, gave details, and were told someone would contact us and come out today. True enough, a policewoman from the burglary squad came out today at 1:30; would have taken fingerprints but clearly no point. At least they responded. Full marks.

I can't explain why some people get good service and others don't. At least I'm grateful there was such prompt action.

If anyone sees a Sony V1 Cybershot or a Kodak digital camera Easyshare CX7330 being offered round pubs or elsewhere and it looks a bit dodgy let me know.

**Colapop** · 5th December 2005, 17:41

Originally Posted by MikeL

Commiserations, Marmoot.
My story, however, is a bit different.

On Sunday my wife and I were sitting out in the garden enjoying a pre-dinner drink. A guy appeared around the corner of the house, called out to us "I'm looking for a puppy - neighbour said he ran onto your property." We said no, he disappeared. Some time later we found two digital cameras missing from the house. Called the police, got put through straight away, gave details, and were told someone would contact us and come out today. True enough, a policewoman from the burglary squad came out today at 1:30; would have taken fingerprints but clearly no point. At least they responded. Full marks.

I can't explain why some people get good service and others don't. At least I'm grateful there was such prompt action.

If anyone sees a Sony V1 Cybershot or a Kodak digital camera Easyshare CX7330 being offered round pubs or elsewhere and it looks a bit dodgy let me know.

For a start check Tardme on the camera front - xmas time quick money.

The police will turn up if there is someones life at stake, do we have to say "There's a burgler in my house right now"?

**Marmoot** · 5th December 2005, 17:50

Originally Posted by Beemer

If you rang 111 for a *...* the bad guys have left, not cats up trees, not things that can be dealt with by calling the local station.

I believe you're missing my point.
Crimes don't get investigated, and it will lead to more crimes because they simply become bolder.

Government need to be stuck up on the wall and be told about this, unless you want this to continue. Maybe until you get struck?

**Colapop** · 5th December 2005, 18:01

Originally Posted by Marmoot

I believe you're missing my point.
Crimes don't get investigated, and it will lead to more crimes because they simply become bolder.

Government need to be stuck up on the wall and be told about this, unless you want this to continue. Maybe until you get struck?

It's been proven in other areas, once a group starts to get too greedy then the cops will step in. I can't remember the area but I do remember the police targeting a particular family and over the course of 2 weeks overall crime dropped by 40%. Burglaries dropped by something like 80%. No, Marmoot that doesn't help you right now, you're still pissed and have every right to be. The point is that if those people are targeted then the flow on effect is huge. How do we target these people?

**jahrasti** · 5th December 2005, 18:05

[QUOTE=Beemer]If you rang 111 for a burglary then you probably got the response you deserved - unless the burglar was still at the scene, it's not exactly what 111 is for. And it probably wasn't a cop who took your call, it would be an emergency operator. If you've ever worked in a call centre, you'd understand why they tried to get you to calm down. There is no way you can do anything until the person calms down enough to speak clearly and you can work out what the problem is.

Oh yea and what about when the burglars are still there? When my other half was living by herself at the time and some wankers were trying to get in by trying all the doors(the second time in one week)so she rang 111, well some stupid civie bitch didnt give a fuck and asked were all the doors locked? well you will be alright and didnt even get a patrol car sent out as it would take to long.Fucken bullshit, You can drive from the mount copshop to the house in 5 mins and less with sirens going at 1 am.Any way what about some hearts and minds? What about going out to make sure she is ok, as it was she was scared witless so i got time off work to go up and was ready to end those cunts if they turned up. I lost alot of respect for the police after that day .

**geoffm** · 5th December 2005, 19:06

What are you complaining about - at least they turned up!
Can't say they have ever done that for me - including one time when $12k of stuff was taken from the van, out of sight behind the house, while we were at home. Couldn't give a shit sums it up.
So what is your score - out extended family is now in the double figures - mainly car breakins and small stuff off the farm
Geoff