This stumped me

[idb]

Did you know the reason for copper jacket on bullets?
It (partially) holds the bullet in shape when the rifle is fired and when it hits the target but almost as important, it stops the rifling from being 'stripped' as the soft lead is rushed down the barrel, the bullet still gets out of the barrel - but has a shower of lead bits with it (ex-rifling) if the velocity get too fast.

I just thought the copper jacket was a marketing thing.
Would you rather walk down the street with a full ammo belt round your waist (or even cooler - twin bandoliers over your shoulders) full of boring grey lead bullets or bling copper-coloured ones.

And y'all thought this thread was boring and dead!!

I never thought it was dead.

[Sniper]

snipers use them to defeat body armour

edit: damn scum !!!!

I carried teflons once, too heavy for my liking and also, when we were shooting at up to 400m we training to hit a head. You aim for the body at furthur distances, but the idea was one shot, one kill.

[sAsLEX]

I carried teflons once, too heavy for my liking and also, when we were shooting at up to 400m we training to hit a head. You aim for the body at furthur distances, but the idea was one shot, one kill.

one of the stats I personally love is the kill ratios of certain units to rounds expended in Vietnam.

Most of your standard 9 min grunts or however long they averaged on the ground needed thousands of rounds per kill, where Snipers were a little over 1 shot per kill

and a good sniper can be so demorallising *sp* to a whole company/rabble!

[Sniper]

Most of your standard 9 min grunts or however long they averaged on the ground needed thousands of rounds per kill, where Snipers were a little over 1 shot per kill

and a good sniper can be so demorallising *sp* to a whole company/rabble!

I know what you mean, 5 well placed shots onto certain officers in a battalion can effectivly stop an advance and scare the shit outta people. I never got to do it though.

[sAsLEX]

I know what you mean, 5 well placed shots onto certain officers in a battalion can effectivly stop an advance and scare the shit outta people. I never got to do it though.

not even the officers, put a deadly fear into the soldiers and then they wont be too keen to go running about!

Gallipoli was a good use of snipers, and also showded innovation from those under fire ( the ANZACs and their mirror rifles), where because of the ?turks? elevated/good sniper positions the ANZACs were forced into trenches and tunnels to fight the battle. Which meant harsh living conditions etc which put soldiers out of commision with the shits alone rather than battle wounds etc

[Sniper]

I haven't read much on Gallipoli, so its interesting to know about it. I can imagine how demoralising it is when you are in shit filled drains.

[Waylander]

one shot, one kill.

Sniper, was decent. Sniper 2 was crap. And Sniper three.... WTF were they thinking?!?!

[sAsLEX]

I haven't read much on Gallipoli, so its interesting to know about it. I can imagine how demoralising it is when you are in shit filled drains.

Watched a doco on the war channel on sky, oh I think its actually called the history channel oh well, and it was amazing the amount of tunnelling done there since they were dead if they were above ground. Some of the battles were actually fought underground as they tunnelled there way from trench to trench, sometimes hitting turk tunnels and fighting under the ground. Some very brave men!

would love to go there and see it and hopefully do that when go I go to the UK in 07 for some training

[Sniper]

Watched a doco on the war channel on sky, oh I think its actually called the history channel oh well, and it was amazing the amount of tunnelling done there since they were dead if they were above ground. Some of the battles were actually fought underground as they tunnelled there way from trench to trench, sometimes hitting turk tunnels and fighting under the ground. Some very brave men!

would love to go there and see it and hopefully do that when go I go to the UK in 07 for some training

Hell yea. I have read up and seen bits about the tunnel rats in vietnam. Bloody brave buggers they were. Not too much related to Gallipoli as the VC were the only ones underground, but I can imagine when you were happily tunneling along and you meet a pissed off turk with a knife changes your outlook significantly.

[idb]

I've read quite a bit on Gallipoli.
Get hold of a guy Pugsley's "New Zealanders at Gallipoli in their own words" (or a similar title).
It'll blow you away what they put up with and bring tears to your eyes.

[Hitcher]

and a good sniper can be so demorallising *sp* to a whole company/rabble!

As the Germans found out in Stalingrad where Russian snipers only killed officers.