one last hug

[scumdog]

What's the penalty in Turkey?

Dunno - but I bet if it had effing great signs at/near the airport I'd know pretty damn fast - but I guess if you've arrived with a shit-load of drugs like the dead man had you wouldn't be worried about no stinkin' signs eh?.

Kiwis and Aussies are pretty ohh-fay with the penalties in the more close at hand countries they visit - ESPECIALLY those with nasty consequences for certain offences.

[Grahameeboy]

In the Isle of Man they use the birch and crime is zero.....what is the rest of the world doing wrong....
The Yanks cannot accuse others....they put you on death row for a few years, let you have appeals and then it's snuff time.....how cruel is that.....at least Singapore just gets on with it and in this case (unlike America) guilt is more clear cut.....
As for the Aussies they let refugees jump off ship and do nought.....who are they to talk.......still at least they have now discovered that sheep are for shearing!!!

[Skyryder]

If only the Singaporean Government werent so fucking hypocritical - they hang the small time traffickers - crying "setting an example" - and cuddle up to the big time drug lords who push Billions of dollars of this shit through the Golden Triangle and Burma, laundering the money through Singaporean connections!.
The Singaporean Government is NOT lily white in all this! - just another bunch of hypocritical, posturing arseholes, who do one thing to the small time person with no power, making an example to the world at large, to gain brownie points from baying bands of holier than thou citizens, and being party to vast amounts of the same traffic, because there is money to be made and hiding behind the facade of a strong, anti drug, government!
And, as usual, ALL the small people at the bottom of the pile get shafted!

Was going to say something much the same but no need to now.

But on the death penality. Just not in favour of it. Never have been never will be.

Skyryder

[Zed]

...But on the death penality. Just not in favour of it. Never have been never will be.

Not even in the case of a confessing murderer? Life for a life? (not wanting to get into a heated debate with u on this)

[WINJA]

Not even in the case of a confessing murderer? Life for a life? (not wanting to get into a heated debate with u on this)

I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF EVIDENCE , 150 OR SO PEOPLE ON DEATH ROW IN AMERICA HAVE BEEN FOUND INNOCENT, THATS BULLSHIT.
IN THE CASE OF THAT VIETNAMESE MAN HE WAS CAUGHT RED HANDED , TOUGH LUCK

[NC]

I hope they practice necrophillia there

[Dafe]

If idiotic people go into those countries and commit such crimes knowing that they could get the death penalty, then that's their decision and risk so if they get caught they suffer the consequences. Not allowing a last kiss from his mother is animalistic.

Now you particular peeps, if he was captured in New Zealand and punnished under our system, would you still be crying out to kill him?

Good point Zed!

No you wouldn't hear the people of NZ calling out to kill him!
Why??? Because they all have nothing to say to their own pathetic goverment regarding issues of criminal injustice, they accept our bullshit and move on, however - they only have big mouths regrading other nationalities.
Just look at all the heroic bigmouths here, telling us how singapore should drive the nail into the coffin. Yet nothing about the issues on their own doorsteps.
I wish they'd all shut the fark up! He made a bad mistake and now the dude's payed the ultimate price after a three year jail sentence. He took the whole ordeal more bravely than you or I would have too. Let the guy slip away with peace without rubbing the shit into his name! I farkin hate human nature sometimes..... Kicking a man while he's down!

[Dafe]

Rest In Peace Dude!

[MikeL]

(not wanting to get into a heated debate with u on this)

Why not?

Debate about the death penalty is bound to get heated. That's no reason not to have a debate.

My 2 cents worth:

[1] Execution is either an effective deterrent or it isn't. Facts (comparison of murder/crime rates in countries with and without the death penalty) will be conclusive.
[2] If it can't be justified as a deterrent, it becomes either simple retribution or expediency (a bullet is a lot cheaper than life imprisonment). The morality of this approach is murky to say the least.
[3] Anybody who supports capital punishment must be willing to do two things: (a) pull the lever himself and (b) make no complaint if the penalty is applied to his own loved one.
[4] Mistakes will always be made. You have to choose between two beliefs: (a) it is better for any number of guilty men to live than for one innocent person to die, or (b) the price that is paid is worth the benefit. The latter only makes sense if you accept the deterrent argument. Otherwise it is cynical expediency.

[kro]

There will always be people who knowingly flout the law, and have a cry about getting caught afterwards, this forum has its share. This does not mean I have no compassion for the man, but neither do I have to agree with his actions.

Don't like the law or rules?......... tough shit, get over it, find another way to achieve your goal.

[SixPackBack]

Murder and capital punishment come down to perception....to me the Singaporean Government commited murder.
A

[WINJA]

Murder and capital punishment come down to perception....to me the Singaporean Government commited murder.
A

DOES THAT MEAN THAT DRUG DEALER COMITTED MURDER TOO BY SELLING DRUGS, ALLS FAIR THEN ISNT IT , THE THING THAT STUCK OUT TO ME IN AUS WAS THE DRUG PROBLEMS , I WAS AT MCDONALDS BOURKE ST MELBOURNE WHEN SOMEONE OD,ED

[marty]

If I rolled right up to your house right now with some coke, and you tried it, are you worthy of a swing from the neck too?

you don't get hung for using - it's trafficking 380-odd grams - when 15 is the limit, that'll fuck you (and 10000 others) up

[SixPackBack]

DOES THAT MEAN THAT DRUG DEALER COMITTED MURDER TOO BY SELLING DRUGS, ALLS FAIR THEN ISNT IT , THE THING THAT STUCK OUT TO ME IN AUS WAS THE DRUG PROBLEMS , I WAS AT MCDONALDS BOURKE ST MELBOURNE WHEN SOMEONE OD,ED

Yes you have a point, but the person who OD'd was under no obligation to take the drug.
I cannot help feeling that we are not winning the war on drug's by having them illegal, perhaps its time to legalize ALL drugs and let Darwin take over.

[WINJA]

Yes you have a point, but the person who OD'd was under no obligation to take the drug.
I cannot help feeling that we are not winning the war on drug's by having them illegal, perhaps its time to legalize ALL drugs and let Darwin take over.

THEY DO SOME SHITTY THINGS TO GET YOU HOOKED , INCLUDING FREE SAMPLES AND THAT INCLUDES FREE TO KIDS , JUST THINK OF IT THIS WAY , WHAT IF THAT GUY GOT THRU AND IT WAS HIS SHIPMENT THAT WAS YOUR DAUGHTERS FREE SAMPLE AND FIRST TASTE THAT GETS HER HOOKED. BET YOUD RATHER SEE THAT GUY SWINGING BY HIS NECK THAN YOUR DAUGHTER STANDING ON HUNTERS CORNER AT 2 AM