k, i think i've really missed a key thing here. what good was he doing?Originally Posted by Sniper
is it meant to be this bit?:
His botched smuggling run was meant to generate cash to pay the debts of his drug-addicted twin.
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k, i think i've really missed a key thing here. what good was he doing?
is it meant to be this bit?:
His botched smuggling run was meant to generate cash to pay the debts of his drug-addicted twin.
.....your time is coming
The Law is the Law and if you break it you suffer....sad but no point complaining eh.....would there have been so much media if the guy had been Indian.....our survey sayd "No".
Who are we to judge others.....sorry he Yanks do it and look at their judicial system.....okay you are sentenced to death but we will let you think about it for a few years......we will let you appeal as much as you like cause we are nice like that and then your time is up.......
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I sure can put myself in those shoes Jim2 but I do take issue with the anything part.
There are many other ways he could have helped his messed up brother...and if he had to be an idiot and smuggle drugs why choose a country like that?
The guy did wrong and will no suffer bad...his family more so. Sad,very sad but he knew what was up and he took the risks.
I've done many stupid things...and no doubt will continue to
Kiwi back at home!
surely you wouldn't find the biggest pair of cement shoes and then go swimming would you?!
I fail to see how this was the only option open to him to help his brother out, sure he did it out of love etc but the brain is there for a reason
bikeless
Wich causes a masive backup in the system so that cases that are time important and such(like family courts and adoption processes) get pushed off or short changed because the judges have to hurry up for the next case.
Sever
Now and forever
you're just another lost soul about to be mine again
see her, you'll never free her
you must surrender it all
And give life to me again
Disturbed - Inside the Fire
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Has the guy not heard of getting a loan to pay his brothers debts? If he cared that much he'd put his brother in a shack in the outback to go cold turkey. How the hell could he justify contiuing to kill his brother by smuggling the drugs that are killing his brother? Now the family has lost two sons.
They shall not grow old as we that are left grow old.
Age shall not weary them nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the evening,
we will remember them
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The 'Bali Nine' could be lumped into the a similar bracket as this fella. They reckon they were forced into it with theats and had heaps of heroin strapped to their bodies. Death by firing squad over there.
Marty
Ever notice that anyone slower than you is an idiot, but anyone going faster is a maniac?
One, two free, floor!
Yeah I can.
I also learned that the "best idea" and the "best thing to do" are two separate things. It was a good idea for this guy to help his twin, but the best thing to do would have been get him home to Oz (Iassume the twin was in Singapore?) and get him help.
Put him in detox - it'd be hell on earth and he'd be fearing it ... BUT... get him the hell away from the shit. It would have been the right thing to do.
A question though - what would happen to his twin if he'd been caught in Singapore airport strung out? No drugs on him but either high, or strung out prior to getting on the plane?
Funnily enough I have a copy of the "Repbulic of Singapore Disembarkation/Embarkation form for Visitors - Welcome to Singapore" on my noticeboard
In big red captial letters, bottom left it says
WARNING
DEATH FOR DRUG TRAFFICKERS
UNDER SINGAPORE LAW
$2,000 cash if you find a buyer for my house, kumeuhouseforsale@straightshooters.co.nz for details
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I'm actually quite disheartened that most people who've responded can't see how he got there. I'm not apologising for him, I'm not supporting him, I'm not denying that he was stupid (as I've said over, and over, and over), I'm not denying that he "earned" his sentence, barbarous as it is - can you not see how his plight would have landed him there? Are you all so non-self aware that you can't see that smuggling drugs to Singapore, or through Singapore, is driven by the same testosterone and "immortality" urge that drives all young men to risk taking? He was 22 and bullet-proof. It wasn't going to happen to him, and he could fix all his family problems in one go.
Social services? You must be joking. Your twin owes the Triads money for drugs. I'll go tell the cops then shall I? Think about how you would react when a family member's life is threatened, by a criminal organisation with no scruples. How the hell do you respond rationally? Can you not see how stupid decision after stupid decision would pile up in that situation?
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
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I challenge you to remain rational in that situation.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Aargh, photos!
Yep, he was trying to help his twin, I think it was a nobel act but he could have found a legit means.
To every man upon this earth
Death cometh sooner or late
And how can a man die better
Than facing fearful odds
For the ashes of his fathers
And the temples of his Gods
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Thank you Sniper.
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My sister had a boyfriend (father of her 2 kids) heavily involved in the drug trade (class A shit) after he put a shotgun under her chin and threatened to blow her head off I was tempted to do the same, right to the point of me standing outside their back door with loaded gun in my f&+*cking hands. There are other options. Argue the rights and wrongs of capital punishment but don't assume he didn't have other options.
They shall not grow old as we that are left grow old.
Age shall not weary them nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the evening,
we will remember them
My Brian hurts!
Yeah, I feel something for this man. I am saddened by the use of the death penalty. But - if your brother is in debt because of his drug addiction, wouldn't you try and do something about it without resorting to smuggling drugs? I would. I'd be happy to give all I could, but to actually put more of the stuff that I could see damaging my own brother on the street to damage OTHER people's brothers? I couldn't do it... I really couldn't.
We don't know the facts surrounding the entire thing, of course. It might have been that it was a question of "smuggle this and you and your brother are free of debt from me, the drug kingpin of all Yarra. If you don't we'll kill your entire family..." or it could have been "Sh*t dude - you owe 25,000 Aussie Dollars? - we'd better smuggle drugs!"
Dunno - it's definitely food for thought though... I hope that his Family is fine and that this is the last death that they suffer for a good long while.
Yokai - bendamindaday
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no, it was a dumbass act.
Still boils down to one thing tho, doesn't it? Drugs. It's all going back to drugs drugs drugs.. Neither he nor the twin just dropped into it one morning. There would have been a series of events which probably were getting worse and worse which led to this. And they kept going the wrong way instead of doing the right thing. Yes, help by all means, but help the right way, not with more drugs and getting yourself shot for it. I'd bend over backwards to do the right thing, but who in their right f'in mind would think 'hey, I'll just nip over the ditch and get you some more.. Need anything else while I'm gone?' Pfft, dumbass to even think about getting it that far.
Can they honestly say, no matter how old they are, that they sat down and really thought it thru? That they knew the risks and chances of getting caught? That they knew all the risks and issues associated with drugs? That they knew that there was 'nothing else' they could have done? cowpoos..
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