Lane splitting/filtering: the legal and commonsense answers

**FJRider** · 27th March 2013, 06:54

Originally Posted by swbarnett

The way a girl dresses has been said in the past to be a factor in rape. This, quite rightly, has been denounced on numerous occasions. Only the rapist is responsible for their actions.

One might assume ... that a girl may have the freedom to dress (or drive) ... and expect that she has no unwanted contact with people she doesn't know. (personally or otherwise)

I think the law expects that too ...

To say such contact is not only possible ... but probably likely in the course of lane splitting ... is an admission lane splitting is wrong.

Or ... you gave an incorrect example ... so please try again.

**swbarnett** · 27th March 2013, 08:14

Originally Posted by Madness

"no damage was done, it's only paint"

Noone ever said that. What was said was "NO damage", not even paint. If paint was removed then this is something that needs to be dealt with by the rider.

**Madness** · 27th March 2013, 08:15

Originally Posted by swbarnett

Noone ever said that. What was said was "NO damage", not even paint.

You're dreaming, again.

**swbarnett** · 27th March 2013, 08:46

Originally Posted by FJRider

To say such contact is not only possible ... but probably likely in the course of lane splitting ... is an admission lane splitting is wrong.

Or:

"To say such contact is not only possible ... but probably likely in the course of life ... is an admission living is wrong."

I'm not saying that such contact is "probably likely in the course of lane splitting". It's not. What I am saying is that it will happen, albeit infrequently, in the initial stages of learning to lanesplit.

Mistakes are an inevitable part of the learning process.

**FJRider** · 27th March 2013, 18:04

Originally Posted by swbarnett

Or:

"To say such contact is not only possible ... but probably likely in the course of life ... is an admission living is wrong."

I'm not saying that such contact is "probably likely in the course of lane splitting". It's not. What I am saying is that it will happen, albeit infrequently, in the initial stages of learning to lanesplit.

Mistakes are an inevitable part of the learning process.

I prefer close contact with just people I know personally ... is that wrong .. ???

**swbarnett** · 29th March 2013, 21:46

Originally Posted by Madness

You're dreaming, again.

Certainly not the way I understand it. Surely it's clear that removing paint goes beyond the definition of "no damage".

**Rhys** · 16th May 2013, 22:40

I was think the other day when heading to work that on 2 lane roads (2 lanes in the same direction) if there was a way of separating cars better it would make it far safer and reduce driver aggro towards bikes when lane splitting
I know on SH1 north of waikane they have done a double white line to separate traffic
it would seam a logical and cheap ,room permitting, option ?

I'm curious what others think

**st00ji** · 17th May 2013, 07:22

i dunno about wellington, but in auckland the approach to carparks seems to be 'jam as many spaces in as possible'

hence the lanes on the motorway are generally kept to a minimum.

still heaps of room for bikes though

**iYRe** · 17th May 2013, 08:09

Originally Posted by st00ji

i dunno about wellington, but in auckland the approach to carparks seems to be 'jam as many spaces in as possible'

hence the lanes on the motorway are generally kept to a minimum.

still heaps of room for bikes though

dunno what motorway you're riding on, but in the last 20 years they have added extra lanes to most of them without actually increasing the width of the road.. either that or cars have gotten bigger..

**sinfull** · 17th May 2013, 08:13

I think the designers and planners of our roads don't care what you think !

**leathel** · 17th May 2013, 09:48

If they kept the surface smooth right out to the concrete barrier you could comfortably ride outside more in Auckland... Plenty of room out there for good stretches

**The Reibz** · 17th May 2013, 10:05

I don't lane split as much as I used to, owning a wide bike is a disadvantage and I seem to clip wing mirrors alot more than I did on my 1000cc. In saying that, you don't buy a busa as a commuter.
The fans are constantly going when im splitting down the motorway. The frame heats up and you can feel it quite easily through thick pants. In jeans or shorts its like having a fan heater right next to your legs.

I split at a confortable pace but I always see other riders going way to fast and getting frustrated when they get stuck behind me. Would rather get to where im going with my bike "unfucked" than split to fast and end up having a accident.

One thing I have learnt about driving/riding in Auckland is everyone elses business/priorities are always higher than yours. It doesn't matter if your driving some whos having a heart attack to hospital, the guy that cuts you off at the lights has much more important shit to attend to...

**Voltaire** · 17th May 2013, 10:58

Yes a wider median lane would be nice, however Len and Govt have no interest in fringe transportation like motorcycles and scooters, only cars and underground trains.

**BoristheBiter** · 17th May 2013, 12:07

Originally Posted by Voltaire

Yes a wider median lane would be nice, however Len and Govt have no interest in any transportation, only underground trains.

Fixed that for you

**Ender EnZed** · 19th May 2013, 23:47

Originally Posted by The Reibz

owning a wide bike is a disadvantage and I seem to clip wing mirrors alot more than I did on my 1000cc. In saying that, you don't buy a busa as a commuter.

Pussy! A "Busa" is not really any wider than any other bike, it's just about personal confidence while splitting.