Lane splitting/filtering: the legal and commonsense answers

[rastuscat]

yes, yes you would. It's completely pointless, and does nothing but piss them off.
That never helps any.

Might make you feel better, certainly won't make them more helpful next time.

Folk forget that sometimes. They get so caught up in their own little self importance they burn other road users' attitude toward us all.

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[Maha]

I'm coming across a lot of cagers who ,while in the "fast lane" and in traffic, hug the left hand side of the lane making splitting impossible.

So why don't you pass on the right when you come across that situation?

[TheDemonLord]

I filter passed those guys on the back wheel....

Wheelies make sure that I don't clip my Wing mirrors....



But in all seriousness, I normally wait for them to meander back to the other side of the lane and then get passed, most of the time I don't even need to wait, just time it properly.

When there are two trucks however, that is when it gets interesting.

[swbarnett]

I hope you realise that they're perfectly within their rights to keep left within their lane? In fact that's exactly where they should be. If anyone is out of place it's the ones to the right of the lane.

Lane splitting is a privilege and my no means a right. First and foremost courtesy to other road users is required. Be thankful when a car driver leaves you room. If they don't then just wait in line or find another gap.

[iYRe]

I hope you realise that they're perfectly within their rights to keep left within their lane? In fact that's exactly where they should be. If anyone is out of place it's the ones to the right of the lane.

Lane splitting is a privilege and my no means a right. First and foremost courtesy to other road users is required. Be thankful when a car driver leaves you room. If they don't then just wait in line or find another gap.

^^

The road code say to stay as far left as possible. The problem isnt the people who are keeping left, its the idiots who are too far right. Right?

[Gremlin]

I'm coming across a lot of cagers who ,while in the "fast lane" and in traffic, hug the left hand side of the lane making splitting impossible. This is specifically Aucklands southern motorway but i assume it happens everywhere else.
What are they doing? Are they just sub par drivers or are they purposely trying to make my life difficult?

Overtaking on the left is actually illegal and carries a $150 fine...

[Maha]

Overtaking on the left is actually illegal and carries a $150 fine...

But but, if you have your right indicator going at the time of said manoeuvre, then technically you are overtaking the car on your left, which is legal.

[swbarnett]

^^

The road code say to stay as far left as possible. The problem isnt the people who are keeping left, its the idiots who are too far right. Right?

Exactly. If all the traffic kept left in their lane there'd be plenty of room (most of the time) to legally lane share to the right.

However, the real problem is self important riders that think they have a right to split no matter what.

[nzspokes]

Exactly. If all the traffic kept left in their lane there'd be plenty of room (most of the time) to legally lane share to the right.

However, the real problem is self important riders that think they have a right to split no matter what.

As long as you are not speeding the Popo wont pull you over anyway.

[swbarnett]

As long as you are not speeding the Popo wont pull you over anyway.

Agreed. I do it every day.

What urks me is the lack of courtesy shown sometimes. From both sides.

[Gooz]

For those who might have missed this article by Paul Charman.

It definitely won't end the discussion, but Carey Griffiths does have some authoritative insights (currently the ACC motorcycle guy, previously 30 years in the police much of it in road policing).

[Berries]

It definitely won't end the discussion, but Carey Griffiths does have some authoritative insights (currently the ACC motorcycle guy, previously 30 years in the police much of it in road policing).

Neither Carey or his BMW are narrow enough to filter.

[nzspokes]

For those who might have missed this article by Paul Charman.

It definitely won't end the discussion, but Carey Griffiths does have some authoritative insights (currently the ACC motorcycle guy, previously 30 years in the police much of it in road policing).

That article is not biased at all.

[Swoop]

"Above all, riders should get some training to avoid bad habits sure to get them into trouble one day."
So, ACC is going to offer up some training to filter and lane-split better?

Choice Bro!

[Gremlin]

But but, if you have your right indicator going at the time of said manoeuvre, then technically you are overtaking the car on your left, which is legal.

Not quite. Lets say you have a 3 lane motorway (they're always numbered from the left to right). All vehicles are moving and you're in lane 2, passing a car in lane 2 on its right, and in the same lane. Legal and an overtake (but there is also provision about having the space to be clear when completing the overtake).

All vehicles are moving and you're in lane 2, passing a car in lane 2 on its left and in the same lane. Yes, you are overtaking the car in lane 1, but you're also passing on the left in lane 2, and that's not legal, subject to $150 blah blah etc. Same thing (and more commonly) applies to lane 2 vs 3.

When cars are stationary, then you can pass on either side within the same lane, legally.