Lane splitting/filtering: the legal and commonsense answers

[Kittyhawk]

No time to be faffing around clipping mirrors, get out of my way Im on the road! Do it fast enough so that by the time the driver realises you are there, you have already gone past!

[FJRider]

No time to be faffing around clipping mirrors, get out of my way Im on the road! Do it fast enough so that by the time the driver realises you are there, you have already gone past!

I'm safe on the "other" island in the meantime then ...

[Kittyhawk]

I'm safe on the "other" island in the meantime then ...

Rubbish! there is nooo escape!

[FJRider]

Rubbish! there is nooo escape!

Don't make me come up there and show you how it should be done ... (at least I'll be safe in front ... maybe )

[Hugo Nougo]

Hi, riding for 30+ years clipped a mirror the other day, hand up in apology, checked video later to find car moving over in bumper to bumper trafic at 10 - 20 kph, no indicator no chance of changing lane, my fault or there's ?. ( i know the answer )

[swbarnett]

Perhaps you should pay more attention to the third quote in your own signature line then?

Definitely. This case happened after a long ride in near sub-zero conditions with not ehough warm gear. My brain was definitely not on my riding. Just as bloody well for me my instincts kicked in and took the appropriate evasive action (given that I failed to see the situation developing).

Thank fuck you finally got there.

I've never said otherwise. Although I may have implied it unintentionally. My assertion is that the mirror-clipping is not done with intent.

The clogged Auckland motorways at peak times is no place to learn the skills necessary to split safely

Where else? You need clogged conditions to get the traffic speed low enough for novice splitters.

Simple as fuck really when you get past your attempts at self-justification, innit?

No self-justification. I've already said that I cocked up and learnt from it.

Learners, by their very nature, lack the skills to perfectly execute that which they are trying to learn. That's why it's called learning, not doing. Mistakes will be made.

[Deano]

Neither, but women have a greater perprephial scope than men....it's tested at optomertrists.

You'd think that would help with your spacial skills, you know, like when parallel parking

[Maha]

You'd think that would help with your spacial skills, you know, like when parallel parking

.......or backing a trailor..

[DMNTD:Me]

Jebus! All this so called lane splitting certainly does take its time dunnit?

[Madness]

Where else? You need clogged conditions to get the traffic speed low enough for novice splitters.

Learners, by their very nature, lack the skills to perfectly execute that which they are trying to learn. That's why it's called learning, not doing. Mistakes will be made.

Anywhere else that takes your fancy. The way I see it the skills required involve accurate bike control at low speeds and good spatial judgement. You don't need 5:30 North-Western conditions to create an environment to learn such skills IMO, what's wrong with using trolleys in a supermarket carpark after-hours or do what I and many others did by riding off road amongst trees, etc.

If ACC and Moto-NZ had even half a brain between them we'd be seeing more support behind initiatives like the Gymkhana events organised last year which, as I understand, were given fuck all support despite being approached.

From the viewpoint of a driver of a 4-wheeled vehicle regularly stuck in Aucklands daily moving carpark, a splitting bike is a splitting bike. Displaying an L-plate doesn't make me think I should cut them more slack if I see them splitting badly, it tells me they are probably less skilled and experienced, therefore they should be even more careful and conservative in their splitting decisions. Should a noob collide with my vehicle whilst splitting I'll probably be even more pissed off than if they were a Ulysses member. Hope that helps.

[Madness]

Jebus! All this so called lane splitting certainly does take its time dunnit?

Some people are slower than others.

[DMNTD:Me]

Some people are slower than others.

I don't get it? Maybe I should take a closer look in the mirror?

[Madness]

I don't get it? Maybe I should take a closer look in the mirror?

Nah, you cruiser riders do enough of that already.

[DMNTD:Me]

Nah, you cruiser riders do enough of that already.

Sure do, trying to understand why so many so-called sports bikes keep disappearing behind me.
Do you lot keep your receipts?
Oh Em Gee!

[Madness]

Sure do, trying to understand why so many so-called sports bikes keep disappearing behind me.
Do you lot keep your receipts?
Oh Em Gee!

I like to think of it as exercising self-control. Whilst on the subject of keeping receipts, I wonder if those of us who have been "unlucky" have kept all their hospital bracelets?