Lane splitting/filtering: the legal and commonsense answers

[sketch]

muff? light change? Im talking about splitting not filtering :P I need to practice but I get scaredy

oh i thort they were the same thing, where you sneak up between the two lanes at the lights? or am i showing my ridiculous lack of bike lingo knowledge?


is splitting just in traffic? i dont much like doin that, first time i tried it some womble opened a door on me at 50 odd kms

but in saying that i still do it

[bosslady]

oh i thort they were the same thing, where you sneak up between the two lanes at the lights? or am i showing my ridiculous lack of bike lingo knowledge?


is splitting just in traffic? i dont much like doin that, first time i tried it some womble opened a door on me at 50 odd kms

but in saying that i still do it

filtering is basically getting to the front of a queue at the lights when the traffic is obviously at a stand still. Splitting is like, on the motorway riding between cars going the same way sometimes when they're stand still sometimes when they're going faster.. first time I tried lane splitting I clipped a side mirror.

[Madness]

I get scaredy

http://youtu.be/xOG1EYbp90k

[Ocean1]

As long as the rules are just a guess from the most here I guess I would be blaming you: driving to close and not keeping the right distance, driving in the same lane, don't using indicator, dangerous driving....oh my oh.

Firstly, most of those "guesses" are a lot closer than your largely illiterate and ill-informed opinion.

And secondly, in the above case I can assure you that the local constabulary, when they arrived at the scene would be of exactly the same opinion as me: the blame for any accident lies with the party last able to effectively avoid it. I doubt they'd bother with minor traffic infringements, though in the face of the far more tempting litigation available for those that use a vehicle as a weapon.

In short, you'd be fukt.

Seems in NZ are different traffic rules than in other western countries! What I wrote above is LAW in Europe so I don't need to discuss about how I would see the case. What about here in NZ? Everything is different? Tell me...

Indeed. I'm astonished at your shock at this apparent revelation, I'd have thought someone as well traveled as you claim to be would have noticed that different countries tend to have different laws. For your further illumination in this regard I can reveal to you that, in fact no European country has the same traffic laws. Not even those relating to lane splitting.

Oh, and if, as I suspect you remain unconvinced then I suggest that you fuck off back from hence you came and break a few of those European rules you know so well to find out exactly how little the locals care about how you see the case.

Fuckwit.

[AndyR1]

I'll just stand on the sidelines here for a while thanks. Tell us Andy, where are you from?

Germany...

[Voltaire]

Well..... In Spain I observed that to turn left ( across the median strip) on a county road they pullover to the right and use a slip road that turns into a cross road intersection.
With an overtaking lane the slow vehicle has to 'give way' at the merging end....often stop.
In France, vehicles coming out of a side road have the right away.
The French are very keen on following closely behind you.
The Portugese and the Spanish make it up as they go.
I counted 100 horse and carts in a hour in Romania, not sure if they have rules there.
That was 10 years ago, it might be different now.
My guess Andy is German.

[AndyR1]

Firstly, most of those "guesses" are a lot closer than your largely illiterate and ill-informed opinion.

And secondly, in the above case I can assure you that the local constabulary, when they arrived at the scene would be of exactly the same opinion as me: the blame for any accident lies with the party last able to effectively avoid it. I doubt they'd bother with minor traffic infringements, though in the face of the far more tempting litigation available for those that use a vehicle as a weapon.

In short, you'd be fukt.



Indeed. I'm astonished at your shock in this regard, I'd have thought someone as well traveled as you claim to be would have noticed that different countries tend to have different laws. For your further illumination in this regard I can reveal to you that, in fact no European country has the same traffic laws. Not even those relating to lane splitting.

Oh, and if, as I suspect you remain unconvinced then I suggest that you fuck off back from hence you came and break a few of those European rules you know so well to find out exactly how little the locals care about how you see the case.

Fuckwit.

Good to know - so take care about the mad Germans

Always happy to let you pass...

[AndyR1]

Well..... In Spain I observed that to turn left ( across the median strip) on a county road they pullover to the right and use a slip road that turns into a cross road intersection.
With an overtaking lane the slow vehicle has to 'give way' at the merging end....often stop.
In France, vehicles coming out of a side road have the right away.
The French are very keen on following closely behind you.
The Portugese and the Spanish make it up as they go.
I counted 100 horse and carts in a hour in Romania, not sure if they have rules there.
That was 10 years ago, it might be different now.
My guess Andy is German.

Right guess

And I guess each country have it's on driving habits and I guess we can all adjust

Even driving close to 100 on the motorway makes me

And you are right there are lots of details you will observe in France where bikes driving with 130 nearly slalom on the motorway around each car...if it's tolerated

The guys in Sweden drives pretty quick even during winter times but having spikes in their tires which is in most other countries as well.

Even NZ have some interpretations of rules which are new for me - looking at your funny "give way" rules where some people are still so confused But I can handle that

[bosslady]

If you don't like our rules why did you move here?

[AndyR1]

If you don't like our rules why did you move here?

Where do you read I don't like them. I just questioning them and don't agree completely. It really doesn't matter if I like them or not, rules are rules and should be followed more or less. I can't change them anyway but I can adjust and I can decide for myself which behaviour on the street is reasonable and which not

What will change if I move here or even not - well your economy needs to import few engineers more again - that's all.

[bosslady]

Where do you read I don't like them. I just questioning them and don't agree completely. It really doesn't matter if I like them or not, rules are rules and should be followed more or less. I can't change them anyway but I can adjust and I can decide for myself which behaviour on the street is reasonable and which not

What will change if I move here or even not - well your economy needs to import few engineers more again - that's all.

I didn't read that you don't like them, but you sure are whinging a lot about them which would indicate that you don't like them.

[scumdog]

I didn't read that you don't like them, but you sure are whinging a lot about them which would indicate that you don't like them.

Farrrrkk! - he sounds just like all the whinging Kiwis on KB! (Of which we have a lot you may have noticed)

They moan about speed limits,
They moan about 'cagers' and their driving styles,
They moan about Harley-Davidsons and those that ride them,
They moan about furrinners whinging about NZ laws...

[Tigadee]

I really need to start lane splitting myself, it's just the feeling of claustrophobia that gets me, cars closing in ya etc. I think I might need to get a lesson with an instructor, if I can, to help me. You just can't live/commute in Auckland and not lane split, you just can't!

[Tigadee]

http://youtu.be/xOG1EYbp90k

Meh, that's porn music for Hannibal...

[sketch]

Seen two sides of this today. On my way to work in the workvan was stopped in traffic and a huge bike think it was a bmw looked like a goldwing, anyway it was huge came lane splitting barely moving and having to be so active to avoid mirrors and I thought to myself what a knob end. If ya guna ride a bike as big as a car then play like a car. On my afternoon ride I went past a cop as i was splitting up the middle at a set of lights n he didnt seem to mind