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[jamessmith]

Forget the 2.4.
Run longer up to 2 hours. A good faster jog wih a few sprints just chucked in there.

In the army the PT sessions were hour or hour and half. Very fast and usually uphill, very repetative and all timed. And you will never make the time given.

My advice. Long runs. plent of sprints. uphill sprints. maybe some aqua jogging.
The 2.4 km run will be the easiest run you will ever do!

My time was 8.30 at best. Not the best but deffinatly in the better group.

[Hoon]

12 mins is just an average jog pace. If you HAVE been training and are still at 12 mins then you are either fat or lazy or old.

Fat? Eat less
Lazy? Work harder
Old? Work even harder

I agree with all the above posts. What I do is run longer distances first and work up to being able to jog say 8km every 2nd day first to condition the body, then change to interval training. If your goal is 10mins then start off with 6 x 400m sprints in 1m40 with 1 min rest in between. Once you can complete all 6 under 1m40 then move up to 3 x 800m in 3m20, then onto 2 x 1200m in 5mins. If you don't condition your body first you won't be able to hack it and give up as it will be your first introduction to pain if you've been avoiding it. The mind will say anything to get you back onto the couch but the stopwatch never lies.

[wbks]

Forget the 2.4.
Run longer up to 2 hours. A good faster jog wih a few sprints just chucked in there.

In the army the PT sessions were hour or hour and half. Very fast and usually uphill, very repetative and all timed. And you will never make the time given.

My advice. Long runs. plent of sprints. uphill sprints. maybe some aqua jogging.
The 2.4 km run will be the easiest run you will ever do!

My time was 8.30 at best. Not the best but deffinatly in the better group.

Sounds impressive to me. When you say "you will never make the time", is that telling me I shouldn't be thinking of basic just yet, or just saying how hard it is? Thanks for the advice.

12 mins is just an average jog pace. If you HAVE been training and are still at 12 mins then you are either fat or lazy or old.

Fat? Eat less
Lazy? Work harder
Old? Work even harder

I agree with all the above posts. What I do is run longer distances first and work up to being able to jog say 8km every 2nd day first to condition the body, then change to interval training. If your goal is 10mins then start off with 6 x 400m sprints in 1m40 with 1 min rest in between. Once you can complete all 6 under 1m40 then move up to 3 x 800m in 3m20, then onto 2 x 1200m in 5mins. If you don't condition your body first you won't be able to hack it and give up as it will be your first introduction to pain if you've been avoiding it. The mind will say anything to get you back onto the couch but the stopwatch never lies.

I wouldn't call myself lazy considering I've gone from 96kg to 76 so far this year, but maybe I'm not quite off the fatty wagon just yet haha.
So what you're saying is do long runs to build up endurance and then split up the 2.4 and do it at the right pace in sections until I can do the whole thing. Sounds like that makes sense I guess. Just wondering how long this is going to take, I'd love to make it by early next year... I'll go for a longer run today.

[Hoon]

By next year?!?!? You could prepare for a Marathon in that time

Thats what I normally do for my RFL buildup. I'm TF, 39, 178cm, 90kg and run a 9:20-10:30 RFL depending on its importance I start training about 4 weeks out depending on my current level of fitness (usually around the 11:30-12min mark) every 2nd day. I like to do at least 2 weeks of intervals and then finish off with 2 practice RFLs at pace before the actual date.

To be honest I only bother with the 6x400m in sub 1m40s to get me prepared these days but a lot depends on how hard you are willing to push yourself during trainings.

[wbks]

By next year?!?!? You could prepare for a Marathon in that time

Thats what I normally do for my RFL buildup. I'm TF, 39, 178cm, 90kg and run a 9:20-10:30 RFL depending on its importance I start training about 4 weeks out depending on my current level of fitness (usually around the 11:30-12min mark) every 2nd day. I like to do at least 2 weeks of intervals and then finish off with 2 practice RFLs at pace before the actual date.

To be honest I only bother with the 6x400m in sub 1m40s to get me prepared these days but a lot depends on how hard you are willing to push yourself during trainings.

I guess I'll start doing as close to 8k every second day for two weeks then try the intervals for two weeks then?
EDIT: I don't think I've ever ran so far hahaha. Not quite 8k (7.3 according to google earth), but I'd like to think the fact that it was pissing down and blowing these supposedly 130 km/h winds makes up for it, about a km is up/down hills. One question to you guys who obviously run more often then me though: Do your knees get sore after quite a few km's? Or when you haven't run that in a while? I have had trouble in the past with bad patella alignment in my left knee, and both of them click a little bit, but they have never felt uncomfortable at all when running until the last km or so of this run, but I'm not sure if it's worth a visit to the doctor to. Tempted to just do 8k on Wednesday and see if they feel stiff again. Maybe it was just running in the cold/rain that did it

[awayatc]

no need to run

just learn how to shoot......

[jamessmith]

What I mean by youll never make the time... PTI's just love to punish recruits. The first PT session is pure murder. And it dosnt get any easier. Youll never make the time because they want to punish you.
Break you, and rebuild you into something half useful.
I hope youve gone Infantry.... Its the only place to be!

[wbks]

I hope youve gone Infantry.... Its the only place to be!

If I hadn't decided that way I would have now? haha
Yep. p.s, any input on my above post?

[Gibbo89]

what is it like joining the army? i'm kinda interested in it eh...

[Delerium]

what is it like joining the army? i'm kinda interested in it eh...

In what regards. the basic is all the same. It then changes depending on what corps you go and officer/or

[Gibbo89]

In what regards. the basic is all the same. It then changes depending on what corps you go and officer/or

like is it just a physical 9 to 5 job? is it like 'treat the new guys like shit' type thing?

[Macontour]

Im an older guy but until 2 or 3 years ago was still running about 10:30 to 10:45 but have slowed down becauseof a back problem. Some of the time is a mental thing.

I always had the attitude that if it takes 12 minutes it hurts for 12 minutes, if it takes 10 minutes it only hurts for 10 minutes and I always found that it hurt so the less time I spent hurting the better!!

You can usually do a better time if there is a bit of competition around and unless you are absolutely stuffed at the finish, you just haven't pushed hard enough.

I was involved in recruit training so had

[Delerium]

like is it just a physical 9 to 5 job? is it like 'treat the new guys like shit' type thing?

The recruit course is one where you need to prove yourself, so dont expect to be having fun all the time. Formal training after this is a case of finally having time to yourself but you are still being watched carefully.

Once posted your still the new guy and being watched but it becomes a bit more relaxed. Different units and corps all have their differences as well.

And all the services really are not very alligned with eachother eather. very different cultures between them.

[wbks]

Well sounds like I've got runners knee, which I'm going to go to the doc for asap and hopefully I havent done too much damage atm, should go away fairly soon and if I can keep up with Hoon, I should be ready to send in my application in about two months or less

[Hoon]

I guess I'll start doing as close to 8k every second day for two weeks then try the intervals for two weeks then?

No, work up to 8kms!! If you try jumping in right now you'll probably break yourself. Just start where you are, push yourself a little harder each time, run a little further, or a little quicker, do a little more than your last session.

Build up to it, you have heaps of time.