Serving or ex armed services?

[huff3r]

Does the angle of your arms matter? It's a lot easier to do them with my elbows virtually touching my ribs when I do them, compared to squared off

Check the army website, it should say how they want you to do them. If not then the Airforce site definitely does

[sil3nt]

I wonder if it's even possible to cut almost 15 min 2.4 times down to at least 12 in around a month?...
Would doing a timed 2.4 every day be the best way forward?

Don't run 2.4km in training! You need to run more than that. Look at this http://www.army.mil.nz/careers/joini...er/default.htm

Find out which week your fitness level matches and go from there. I reckon you could do it. Aim for longer timed runs rather than shorter set distance runs.

Hands under the shoulder in the army. Elbows pointed back. If you practice with wide arm stance you will find yourself in a bit of trouble as it works a completely different muscle set!

[quickbuck]

You really are asking for a ribbing with that one!! Ever watch Blackadder goes forth?

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"Ever felt the wind in your hair???"
Ppppffffftttttt

"He has"

[Toaster]

Don't run 2.4km in training! You need to run more than that. Look at this http://www.army.mil.nz/careers/joini...er/default.htm

Find out which week your fitness level matches and go from there. I reckon you could do it. Aim for longer timed runs rather than shorter set distance runs.

Hands under the shoulder in the army. Elbows pointed back. If you practice with wide arm stance you will find yourself in a bit of trouble as it works a completely different muscle set!

Actrually it would be a good idea to practice both kinds of pressups. Both are beneficial and good for overall muscle development. I agree about the runs. Hard out longer distance runs are a good idea. I used to run as far as I could in one direction and then once stuffed, turn around and run back.

[sil3nt]

Actrually it would be a good idea to practice both kinds of pressups. Both are beneficial and good for overall muscle development. I agree about the runs. Hard out longer distance runs are a good idea. I used to run as far as I could in one direction and then once stuffed, turn around and run back.

Yep definitely practice both types but if your only gonna do one make it the right one

[sAsLEX]

Did 9.5km at lunch time today, averaged 4 and a half minutes a k, and did the last k in 3 minutes, which would be pushing G1 in the run test.

I think it is important to run some practise RFLs seeing how early you can kick up a gear, and even run a few back to back to see how you go when you are a little tired.

[wbks]

Did 9.5km at lunch time today, averaged 4 and a half minutes a k, and did the last k in 3 minutes, which would be pushing G1 in the run test.

I think it is important to run some practise RFLs seeing how early you can kick up a gear, and even run a few back to back to see how you go when you are a little tired.

... That's "OK"...
I was kind of planning on doing mainly RFL level runs, anyway. Running longer than 10 or so minutes gets seriously boring unless you're running with someone else or something

[sAsLEX]

... That's "OK"...
I was kind of planning on doing mainly RFL level runs, anyway. Running longer than 10 or so minutes gets seriously boring unless you're running with someone else or something

Yeah running by yourself is a little average, but if you lack the commitment to do that, maybe you should rethink your career plan?

You could show some courage and find a running partner? Then you might find a little comradeship....

[Delerium]

got C3I much? :P

[wbks]

Yeah running by yourself is a little average, but if you lack the commitment to do that, maybe you should rethink your career plan?

You could show some courage and find a running partner? Then you might find a little comradeship....

lol, I didn't say I couldn't do it, I just said it's seriously boring and would prefer shorter, more intense runs

[wbks]

anyone know the story with fitness testing? I was under the impression that you need to be at EFL level (12min 2.4, 16 pressups/40 situps) but my letter states it's a RFL (10 mins 2.4 etc)... Do you really need to be at less than 10 to be accepted into AARC?

[specter]

Got to agree with that.
The thing about fitness, is that it is MORE than being able to run so fast, sit up so much, and press up your upper body...

Those are the gauges that are used, BUT in actual fact, the fitter you are the less fatigued you will be by the end of the day.

In fact, I would say that if you are up to the minimum level, you will still feel stuffed by 1500 every day on BASIC. Then the next couple of hours are hell.....
If you are fitter than the minimum, you can continue to concentrate until well into the evening......

But then what do I know, I'm in a cushy Air Force job....

well to be honest im an endurance runner primarily! i just speed up my running specifically for the 2.4

[huff3r]

Phew, did an 8km pack-march with my 20kg pack yesterday morning. I'm gonna have to do plenty more haha. I could probably make it within the required time, but not comfortably and i'd rather be able to do it no sweat

[slydesigns]

Ex army Ammunition Technician - 10 years served got out 4 years back. Raced MX for the Army in Trentham and Linton and while over in Timor on NZBATT1 (Darwin MX Champs 125 A grade - 10th overall - not the best result but still a fun day for free)
Trentham Camp - 1BSB, 5Log Regt, 5BLG
Waiouru - 4Log Regt, WSS, Ammo Platoon
Linton - 21 Field Sup Coy
NZBATT1
IEDD Team Member

anyone know the story with fitness testing? I was under the impression that you need to be at EFL level (12min 2.4, 16 pressups/40 situps) but my letter states it's a RFL (10 mins 2.4 etc)... Do you really need to be at less than 10 to be accepted into AARC?

For males, 10 min, sub 10 preferred to keep the PTI's off your back, 28 pressups, over 30 preferred, 66 situps, 130 should be your target.
I'm 37 and go 8.30 runs 45 pressups and 130 plus situps. I can do the King of the Mountain run at Mt Maunganui in 31mins and the Capital city 10km in 42 mins. I have had 9 dislocated knees and 2 rebuilds, 7 punctured lungs, 1 snapped ankle ligament, 1 dislocated hip, 2 snapped and repinned thumbs, 1 broken arm and wrist and shattered my collarbone in 5 places from MX racing.
No excuses for any serving male soldier or intending soilder under my age NOT to acheive the same or better. Not preaching, this is the attitude your going to run smack bang into once you join and its not negotiable. You'll either acheive it or you'll be a target.

You might want to sort out your pullups while your at it. Thats the latest craze to get hazed over. 10 plus, fully up... hold... fully down... hold... would see you be a grey man. Being a grey man is good.

No matter how much it hurts, smile. They want to see spirit, courage, drive, determination. Because while its hard now, its worse in a hole like Timor or Afghanistan, where its either too hot, too cold, too wet, everythings going to sh*t in a handbag and you just want to go sleep and go home. They want the guy/girl who, despite this, will pick up their lip and do their job, no matter how mundane and be a team player and not a liability.

Actrually it would be a good idea to practice both kinds of pressups. Both are beneficial and good for overall muscle development. I agree about the runs. Hard out longer distance runs are a good idea. I used to run as far as I could in one direction and then once stuffed, turn around and run back.

Definitely do both variations on the pressups AND practice a few Diamond pressups, they will hit you with these for punishment. I used them on the range for basics who didn't pay attention to Explosive lectures. If you fail them the whole class does them for you and they sort the bill out with you later...

Running - we go from the Gym in Waiouru, out the Mad Mile rd past the ammo dump and around Robinsons Pond to the highway at the railway overbridge as you approach Waiouru from Welington, back to camp and into the pool for 25 lengths and compulsory exercises. Thats about and hour and a half running and swimming. Pays to come prepared. And get used to running alone and in silence. Another evil of the PTI's is to send you to the Seven Sins - 7 ultra steep tanktracks/firebreask next to each other and make one partner run up and down in a race, while the other does pressups the whole time. Then repeat until all 7 sins ran. Its killer and to add insult the PTI's (Cpl Bevan Cranstoun was the best at it) would do them all by themselves and still smoke us and punish those they beat for it!

If you beat them you still chose to do the punishment along side those that failed - Army is a team one in all in.

If that sounds gay, choose another profession.

End of rant.

[Bald Eagle]

Who here are either currently serving or ex armed services?
Me, Im an ex RNZAF SGT,served in the mob for 13 years, been in civvy street about 14 years now

Related trade ... 17yrs NZ Police .. almost recovered